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together We can get more...
I'm looking for amateur, semi-pro, and pro - photographers, models, and industry professionals who want to try work with others to get better results :cool:

creativity need new ideas, new solutions ;)

what do You think? :)

am you proposing opening an agency since your looking for both models and photographers or what exactly are you proposing?
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Yeh im confuzzled... what exactly do you mean?
Howdy.I'm a 18 year old half asian from Ireland who really would love to get with an agency who can get her exposure or anything please look at my profile and get back to me :D

You probable know in this industry people work in teams, from idea to final results.
I'm looking for creative people to try work in teams, as professionals, anyone can get new experience, expand skills etc.
photographers need models to make portfolio, models need photographers... etc.

my english isn't good, but I hope You understand my idea ;)

Yeh I do, But alot of the time working in teams normally means, one main photographer and then the underlings. Would that be the same, or would we be working in shifts or at the same time?
Or more, photographer, light technician and stylist. oh doh forgot the model lol, well a few models too!
Where would this all happen if you get enough people?
Howdy.I'm a 18 year old half asian from Ireland who really would love to get with an agency who can get her exposure or anything please look at my profile and get back to me :D

I'm from Meath, not too far from Dublin... many Jurgita members from Ireland live in Dublin, I think somewhere around Dublin will be fine :)
as I write, I need team, and team should discuss about task, place etc. :)

I think about working in shifts :thumbup:

Athough working in shifts would also mean model change.. can be up for a bit of an argument if someone wants to work with someone etc
Its a really good idea though, when you hoping for this to go ahead?
Howdy.I'm a 18 year old half asian from Ireland who really would love to get with an agency who can get her exposure or anything please look at my profile and get back to me :D

many people before become a professional practice like that, taht's nothing new ;)
first I think We need make a team, check what stuff We have/can get for this (I have some equipment over my cameras)... then We'll meet somewhere, and discuss abaut tasks what We want to realize, then We can estimate what We can do :cool:

Time would be easier, would help people organise to see when their free, like for me iv the leaving cert. so i wouldnt be able to help out unless it were in july. Then that could clash with others if you get me?
Howdy.I'm a 18 year old half asian from Ireland who really would love to get with an agency who can get her exposure or anything please look at my profile and get back to me :D

if some people enjoy this idea I think to doing this frequently ;)

YEh twud be a good idea alright, sharing experiences and thoughts. I'd love to know more as both a photographer and model.
ALthough my camera might not be too pro it still does the job!
Howdy.I'm a 18 year old half asian from Ireland who really would love to get with an agency who can get her exposure or anything please look at my profile and get back to me :D

Hi Rafal. I'm not sure what you're talking about here.
There is already a model/photographer forum based in NI, but frequented and used by a lot of models and photographers in the Republic. However this is a very quiet forum. The reality is that there are very few freelance models in Ireland and most photographers I talk to have trouble finding a (good/suitable) model.

If you are a photographer - and it states in your profile that you are looking for models for TFP, then I don't understand what you are talking about here. Working in shifts? I don't think there is a market for shift work.

On the other hand I also get the impression that you are looking for photographers and others to learn from, and share ideas with?

Maybe if you try to write simple sentences we can understand your English.......and possibly help.

Good luck!
Lolo.
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Sounds like what you are proposing is a full service advertising and public relations agency. That is typically what we call over here a project management team and the particular team is put together broken from employees at the agency based on the client and individual talents. Such a team is run by a project manager and answerable to an account manager. Concepts are conceived, roughed out, test shot, test marketed, presented to client, edited, represented and tested before an selected audience, vetted and then put out to agencies for solicitation of models and other needed talent and then compiled into a final marketing product.

If this type of collaboration is what you are referring to, it already exists in every marketing firm in town and the employees all have advanced degrees in their chosen field of expertise.

It is a rough game for amateurs and you had better be willing to put in more than a full time day to make it work, especially since existing agencies do not let go of their clients easily.
:cantlook: Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should :cool:

ok, I'm fresh in this country (some things are diferent than in my country), and I know my english isn't good what I had said before.
my idea isn't about making commercial group/team. some people like me can't realize own projects for portfolio, models, photographers etc.

"open air" (from dictionary), that we name this event.
someone send idea on places like this to collect some photographers, models etc. (amateur, semi-pro, and pro if they want) for do something together. they discuss abaut what they wish/can do, share ideas, and when few people join to idea/ideas they fix time, and location... this working in my country, eweryone have chance to get/make good photografs for portfolio.

work in shift - Cindy are photographer and model, after my time for shooting, she can get camera, and get some photographs, realize own idea, I for example have hold reflector, or sunsail at this time...

maybe this is not correct place for this, maybe I have to learn more english before I start doing something, but I want to try ;)

Rafal Napierala:

"open air" (from dictionary), that we name this event.
someone send idea on places like this to collect some photographers, models etc. (amateur, semi-pro, and pro if they want) for do something together. they discuss abaut what they wish/can do, share ideas, and when few people join to idea/ideas they fix time, and location... this working in my country, eweryone have chance to get/make good photografs for portfolio.

work in shift - Cindy are photographer and model, after my time for shooting, she can get camera, and get some photographs, realize own idea, I for example have hold reflector, or sunsail at this time...

maybe this is not correct place for this, maybe I have to learn more english before I start doing something, but I want to try ;)


Ahhh...Okay. Now I get it. You are trying to arrange what is called a Group Shoot. And you wish to do this type of thing on a regular basis. Ok. That's done often enough.

You need to determine a location and probable day/time. Studio shoot? Outdoor shoot? Some other venue like an old factory, castle, night club during closed hours?

Next you need to decide if the group shoot will be TFCD or if a fee will be paid to participate. If you have to pay for your venue, then a small fee could be charged to cover that. Another way of doing it is to charge only the photographers. This works because the photographers get to shoot five to ten models for the price of one. Each model gets paid the day's wage, the togs get marketable prints. Here's the math: Say a nice location like an old factory charges you 150 to rent it. You recruit 10 models, promise them 200 pounds for 4 or 5 hours work. Recruit ten photographers, promise them they will have four or five hours open shoot with 10 models. Charge them 250 pounds per tog to shoot, they retain rights, but most provide 10 protfolio images to each model. You collect 2500 pounds. Pay out 2000 pounds to the models. Pay out 150 to the factory owner. Have left back 350 pound. Pay yourself 200 pound for your trouble. Bank the remaining 150 pound to plan your next event (this time with refreshments).

So, you have your shoot location, your date, and a fee structure set. Now you go and promote your project to Jurgita models and photographers near your area. Give them six to eight weeks notice to mull over the prospect, hear about it through the grape vine, decide they want to do it and find the cash out of their drinking money or child support payments. Keep posting notices and updates about the shoot and get a discussion going in the forum. Engage in a back and forth about clothing ideas, the neatest spot in the factory to shoot, making a list of models signed up and togs signed up, putting together the schedule of who shoots which models in what order and the time limit.

Continue staying up late nights working out all the logisitics.

Have a fantastic shoot. Post ASAP to the forum images from the shoot and great advertising for the next group shoot.



Something like that you thinking of?
:cantlook: Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should :cool:

Carib Goodies: You are very close to my idea, Your post help me understand a lot about it :thumbup:
this is always all about money ;) ... before I start doing something for money I want be sure doing it right. also others (participants, most photographers) can choose what We do next, something bigger (with pay for extras - location etc.).

my topic was posted for starting discuss about this idea :) maybe someone around doing something like this, and I don't know about it? ;)

THX to everyone for reply :)

Rafal Napierala:

Carib Goodies: You are very close to my idea, Your post help me understand a lot about it :thumbup:
this is always all about money ;) ... before I start doing something for money I want be sure doing it right. also others (participants, most photographers) can choose what We do next, something bigger (with pay for extras - location etc.).

my topic was posted for starting discuss about this idea :) maybe someone around doing something like this, and I don't know about it? ;)

THX to everyone for reply :)


I have seen models and photographers get together for something like this many times. Sometimes they charge a fee, sometimes not. But usually everyone there has fun and get exciting prints out of it. I know last Christmas this was done by some people in London. They met at one person's house, a bunch of models, photographers and a couple MUAs and had a blast shooting late into the night while opening presents and drinking and carousing. Some very interesting pictures came out of the evening and I know a couple of them were bought and published for advertising. That event was a free event, but the owner of the house had final say over who got listed on the invite list.
:cantlook: Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should :cool:

This was actually done recently in Ireland. It were held by another site though down in wexford.
No money were involved unless you were staying down there.
Only make them pay if there needs to be fees paid as in if you need to rent somewhere.

Not everyone is made of money, specially not the amature photographers who may still be in college and the likes.
And then again why should the models be getting paid and the photographers have to pay?:lol:
In the end is the experience not the pay itself?
Howdy.I'm a 18 year old half asian from Ireland who really would love to get with an agency who can get her exposure or anything please look at my profile and get back to me :D

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