Why Do Not Many Models Reply To Genuine Photoshoot Inquiries? Total results: 89 Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 [ 5] |
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 ID: 187757 Posts: 71 | Date: 2007-05-20 01:30
hello all
i decided to search the jurgita model base for precise requests to about two
dozen models for photoshoot possibilities--in some cases indicating exact dates.
but the number of response from models has been very sparse, and the few who
reply often do not follow-up.
in all my work i have found amateur models do the best work for me--especially
in terms of spontaneousness and natural posing. some of the pro models i have
worked with had already lost these abilitites.
i do understand that for many jurgita is a friend-making and blogging site--but
i also notice a lot of sincere queries about modeling issues.
perhaps someone else can tell me how successful they have in making appointments
with newer models on jurgita.sam/PHOTOSTYLE.CA |
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 ID: 182744 Posts: 1741 | Date: 2007-05-20 02:14 I offer them money. Sometimes a trip to the tropics.
Seems to work for me. Never had a no yet. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should  |
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 ID: 187757 Posts: 71 | Date: 2007-05-20 02:23 hi carib,
thanks for the response. a 'no' would not bother me at all. it is the lack of
response that seems curious--given the apparently stated desire to work. i have
never engaged anyone without some preamble. so, you and i have quite different
working methods, i take it.sam/PHOTOSTYLE.CA |
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 ID: 185214 Posts: 1299 | Date: 2007-05-20 10:01 I have noticed the same, I think its more that they are inactive though and not
down to you.
Otherwise some models are putting in the wrong things in there portfolio, so
when you offer that work they dont want it even though they have it selectedHowdy.I'm a 18 year old half asian from Ireland who really would love to get with an agency who can get her exposure or anything please look at my profile and get back to me  |
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 ID: 187757 Posts: 71 | Date: 2007-05-20 11:28 hi cindy,
thanks for your rsponse--i am getting the same sense as well. btw, i like very
much your active and interested participation in these forum discussions.
cheers,sam/PHOTOSTYLE.CA |
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 ID: 186175 Posts: 71 | Date: 2007-05-20 13:52 There are a good percentage of models who post themselves on various modellings
sites but fail to keep upto date with all of them. Consequently, they rarely
check their messages. So sometimes you get no response at all. Unfortunately,
there are also models (not the majority) who agree to every offer and every date
and then wait until the last minute to pick the best one - their preferred
method of turning photographers down seems to be just ending all communication. |
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 ID: 182744 Posts: 1741 | Date: 2007-05-20 15:33 While I have never not gotten a response, I have a couple theories. Like Cindy
and Simon infer, there are people who sign up and either never come back or are
semi-active in maintaining their port. Others might actually be very
disorganized, get a lot of inquiries, and in classic bi-polar behavior, put
aside responses until later because it takes time away from something they want
to do right there and then. And we all know about procrastination...unless
something bites you, you never remember to go back and get it done. Then there
are the lazy people who just cannot get their butt up and respond in a timely
manner. Ther also may be a percentage who are scared witless by the fact that
they got a nibble. "Now what do I do?" rumbles through their frigthened rabbit
brains.
I believe that it is more than just a money offer that keeps me being replied
to. I vette people in advance before making an offer. Just as a model is going
to check me out and do due diligence research on me, I tend to gather as much
background info on the model as possible. Hey, I'm spending a bit of advance
money on a photoshoot and model, I would prefer it not to be a gamble. I check
things out first. Other than a background check and silent background inquiries
into a model, I first check the model's level of activity on a site. Some
modelling sites will let you see how often a model checks in. That's a big clue
to seriousness. Activity on forums and blogs and posts of pictures helps as
well. Since I cannot call a model in for a sit down audition, a constant variety
of photos from jobs done helps me see a lot more. I also will do a Friends
Request. A response to that tells me that they are alive and kicking and also
that they find me a possible prospect for work.
Unless your work is super horrible or your antiperspirant has failed, I do not
think you should take a non-response as a slight. Look at it as those models, in
their ignorance or rudeness or laziness are missing out on just one more
opportunity that could help further their career. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should  |
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| Date: 2007-05-20 16:10 I do my best to reply to offers, I can't stand to be rude especially not when it
could mean losing a possibility to work. If there's a reason that I don't reply
within 2 days, I explain and apologise to the person making the offer. If I
decide to back out I make sure to say so as nicely as possible and as
transparently as possible.
The one offer that I might have replied quite late to was made on my profile
page rather than as a private message, and since I check my control panel rather
than my profile I didn't see it right away. What is particularly annoying is
that comments left on the profile page don't register a time and date, so I have
no way of knowing exactly when the message was left. I did send
the photographer a message expressing interest and apologising if I was replying
late, but for all my politeness he didn't reply, so I suppose the problem runs
both ways. It's a pity that you have such a lack of response, it doesn't say
much about the models which is a shame seeing that the purpose of this site is
to help in building contacts and getting exposure. |
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 ID: 187757 Posts: 71 | Date: 2007-05-20 18:43 thanks folks for responses and explanations. i think the business about body
odour and 'super horrible' work is neither called for nor expected. on the whole
the situation is explainable but not healthy if folks is hoping to have a
modeling experience, less so if one is looking to become a pro.
having always been a non-commercial professional--my work is bought by and
exhibited by galleries, museums, universities and art colleges, but i will not
do weddings, advt. shoots or portraits for money--my need is primarily for
enthusiastic new comers whose freshness has not erased by too much runway or
advt work. this is my experience with having hired through some 'prestigious'
agencies. also, i do not believe in paying folks who live off the talents of
others.
the difficulty i have pointed out with non-responsive 'models' is NOT universal.
some indeed are very prompt and courteous.
at any rate, my problem also arises mainly in the context of foreign models. at
home i have only limited use for jurgita or other similar model sites.sam/PHOTOSTYLE.CA |
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 ID: 182744 Posts: 1741 | Date: 2007-05-21 02:05 PHOTOSTYLE:
thanks folks for responses and explanations. i think the business about body
odour and 'super horrible' work is neither called for nor expected.
Geez! A guy can't have any fun any more! Maybe I need to start putting an 'lol' after my
comments. I cannot smell you from here and no, your work is not horrible. Quite
the opposite in fact!   Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should  |
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 ID: 187757 Posts: 71 | Date: 2007-05-21 02:14 hey carib, i am happy to admit--with some shame--that my sense of fun did get
lost in the woods for a bit there. your point is well taken--and appreciated.
cheers and best.sam/PHOTOSTYLE.CA |
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 ID: 182744 Posts: 1741 | Date: 2007-05-21 03:37 PHOTOSTYLE:
hey carib, i am happy to admit--with some shame--that my sense of fun did get
lost in the woods for a bit there. your point is well taken--and appreciated.
cheers and best.
No prob and heck, look at it this way...I found your official website and helped
insurpassing your goal of 1 million plus visitors for 250 exhibits.
Awesome array of work, by the way. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should  |
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 ID: 187757 Posts: 71 | Date: 2007-05-21 09:06 thanks carib--you are sorta ok as we say up in the cold and friendly (how else
can one survive in the cold?) north when passing around the yukon jack. come
over try some--fire in the belly. howabout this human toe--ingredient of the
in/famous 'sour toe cocktail' in dawson city in yukon!
and you dear daphne, i have looked at your profile a number of times. you are
very pretty, and have a good head on your shoulder. i would ask for you any day
if i am in ghana--which i much hope to be. remember though i do nudes--not
everyone's cup of tea, shall we say. write me directly if you like. it will be
good to chat with you. and all good wishes--always.sam/PHOTOSTYLE.CA |
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 ID: 194271 Posts: 156 | Date: 2007-05-21 12:39 I think a lot of girls live in a dream world hoping that one or other big
advertising company/magazine or whatever will see their photo's that they have
posted in their profile and will offer them a big contract, they tend to shy
away from regular photo shoots. But looking around you will also find many girls
that is willing to do normal shoots and understand how the system works.
Then there is of course the group that just surfs the internet and seems to find
it exiting just to post their photo onto a "Model" website. Most of these can be
easily recognised as they are normally taken with a web cam or a cellphone
camera held at arms length. Most of these girls only use this site to play on
and you will find very few of them serious. The underage ones will most likely
be on this site without their parents knowledge anyway.
There is so many others I can carry on and on. But search and you will also find
very good models on this site. Nothing is ever easy. |
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| Date: 2007-05-21 12:58 PHOTOSTYLE:
remember though i do nudes--not everyone's cup of tea, shall we say.
Hey Sam. I decided to quote this section because perhaps some of the models you
have contacted dont respond as they do not wish to do nude photo shoots. Ive
noticed that a lot of the ameteur models on this sites simply click everything
as to what they will do photo shoot wise in hopes to get some kind of work. Of
course this isnt the best approach and it would be more respectful of them to
contact you with a no.
I am sure like Cindy said there are also alot of models on here that are not
very active on the site and do not check their mailbox often just a
thought. 
P.s. it is looking like i will hopefully be returning to the Toronto area in the
fall. I will email you with the details once i get everything straightened out
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 ID: 182744 Posts: 1741 | Date: 2007-05-28 12:45 PHOTOSTYLE:
thanks carib--you are sorta ok as we say up in the cold and friendly (how else
can one survive in the cold?) north when passing around the yukon jack. come
over try some--fire in the belly. howabout this human toe--ingredient of the
in/famous 'sour toe cocktail' in dawson city in yukon!
We have a local fruit called Stinking Toe or Nigger Toe but it doesn't look like
a toe. It smells like unwashed feet. Some of the people from other islands eat
it calling it a delicacy. I have smelled it cooking and, well, let's say that
McDonald's got my business that night. People who eat it say it tastes very
good. Just have Listerine handy.
You need to come down and visit St. Thomas. You can stay by my place. Be warned,
though. The local models won't do topless, nude or even wear a thong. As far as
fire in the belly...we invented rum. My cousins rum factory next door in Tortola
puts out a 151 proof cane rum that is illegal to bring into the U.S. Fire
hazard. Serious. Coast Guard and FAA have banned it so we have to smuggle it
over here in water jugs.
Between you and I maybe we can find a paying client to make it worthwhile to fly
you in and half a dozen ladies to do a mass shoot tropical style. Think its a
possibility?
Meanwhile, I will be in New Hampshire in mid June. How far away in Canada are
you from there? An easy drive or not? I'll take you up on that Yukon Jack and
toast all models who don't reply to job offers. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should  |
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| Date: 2007-05-21 14:48 well as one of the aspiring models on here, sometimes its hard to find someone
who is not a FREAK, if you know what im mean. its hard to tell if that 30 year
old guy is just making up all this photo shoot stuff. thats how i feel, i get 40
year old men saying they want to get to know me intimatley and set up a
photoshoot. |
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