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| Date: 2007-07-11 16:16 What do you think?
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Young teen models may face catwalk ban
Wed Jul 11, 2007
LONDON (Reuters) - Girls aged under 16 should be banned from catwalk modelling
to protect them from eating disorders and sexual exploitation, a panel of
fashion and health experts said on Wednesday.
Older teenagers also need more protection, including chaperones at shows,
according to the Model Health Inquiry, a group investigating models' health.
The panel said there was a trend for the industry to use younger models, who are
more vulnerable to eating disorders such as anorexia.
"There was also strongly expressed concern that it is profoundly inappropriate
that girls under 16 ... should be portrayed as adult women," said Baroness
Kingsmill, chair of the panel.
"The risk of sexualising these children was high and designers could risk
charges of sexual exploitation."
The inquiry was set up by the British Fashion Council, which runs London Fashion
Week, in the wake of a long-running controversy over super-thin "size zero"
models.
The panel rejected the idea of weighing models and banning those under a certain
weight. It said "size zero" doesn't exist in British shops and is
"meaningless".
It received mixed evidence on whether models should have tests to assess their
body mass index, a measure of fat.
Many models told the inquiry that they feared losing work because they were not
thin enough.
As well as eating disorders, the panel highlighted health risks from stress,
substance abuse and poor working conditions.
"We have grave concerns about other health areas, such as drug and alcohol abuse
and the stress caused by working conditions for model," the panel's interim
report says.
"We are also concerned that modelling is very much a hidden profession with very
little transparency about the working conditions that many models have to
endure."
The panel wants better training for designers and agents to help them spot
models with eating disorders.
There should be a clampdown on drugs and smoking backstage and models should
have access to healthy food, it added. |
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 ID: 199360 Posts: 24 | Date: 2007-07-11 22:14 i am in somewhat of a conflict to answer this question... not because i do not
have an oppinion on it, rather it would take quite some time to compile a
comment that encompassed the full extent of my thoughts.
so instead i will say this...
It is not so much the age of the girls that is the matter as it gives them an
early knowledge of the industry and i believe that it can be both a good
foundation for their career and also a good way for them to get exposure early
on.
i mean, lets face it the majority of models have a very short career (in
comparison to say... a doctor or a lawyer) and if they can get an early heads up
as to whether or not they have a chance of "making it" or even whether or not
they acutally want to... then that must be a good thing for them.
on the flipside, the age of which they are exposed to the goings on of many in
the industry / world (by which i mean sex, drugs, bad eating habits etc etc) is
unfair to them in many ways as they have to learn the ways of the world in a
much shorter period of time than many of their peers... i believe that there can
be many parallels drawn between this and the "sink or swim" theory.
it would seem i have started to babble now so will conclude by saying that it is
not so much the age of the girl that matters so much as it is how they are
treated by those around them.
whether they start at 14 or at 18 they are still teenagers, not adults and
should encouraged to do the things they want to do with their lives and not to
fuck it up by developing bad habits.
not sure if this post makes much sense... just started typing and am in no mood
to go through it and edit it.
you are never too young to learn to swim but you will never learn to swim if the
person teaching you cant swim either.
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| Date: 2007-07-12 03:38 Pretending that kids of 14 aren't exposed to drugs at school is to bury your
head in the sand, and the problems will get worse with such an attitude. The key
to avoiding issues of drug (including alcohol) abuse (and other such ills) is
education. Teach them from age 11 how to respect themselves and others. That
works for questions of sex, diet, and pretty much every social malaise we could
name, but the teaching has to be up to the mark there.
Then they can make informed decisions and learn to make realistic choices,
including what career choices are going to be appropriate.
As to using "young" girls to model on a catwalk as it portrays them as "adults",
at what age does a girl physically become a woman? Funny, but I thought 13/14/15
was a very typical age to find them with hips and breasts, and girls don't grow
much after that. Boys might grow for another year or two, but the catwalk
wouldn't have girls of 14 on it if they didn't have the same physique as the
adults, just because of the way the clothes get made. |
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 ID: 177941 Posts: 172 | Date: 2007-07-12 20:32 Rick Martin:
Pretending that kids of 14 aren't exposed to drugs at school is to bury your
head in the sand, and the problems will get worse with such an attitude.
Let's be honest here. Hard drugs aren't even remotely as prevalent in schools as
they are in modelling agencies. I don't know where you're from, but in my school
no one tried cocaine - very common with catwalk models.
Rick Martin:
As to using "young" girls to model on a catwalk as it portrays them as "adults",
at what age does a girl physically become a woman? Funny, but I thought 13/14/15
was a very typical age to find them with hips and breasts, and girls don't grow
much after that. Perhaps you have never come across a female teenager. The
female body BEGINS going through puberty in the early teens. Although a girl at
15 is unlikely to grow taller, she HAS NOT fully finished developing yet. For
example reasts typically keep growing into the early twenties. I suggest you buy
a book on this topic to educate yourself.
As for the original topic, I actually do agree that it is a good idea to allow
catwalk modelling from 16 upwards only. The industry can be ferociously cruel,
and quiet hard to deal with for a girl who is only coming to terms with the
beginning of adulthood and who she is. Also it is best to keep 13/14 yr olds
(and anyone else, I guess) away from drugs as much as possible. And finally I
strongly disagree with the sexual portrayal of a minor, whether puberty has
began or not. |
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| Date: 2007-07-13 05:12 Lolo Ray:
[Rick Martin: ...] Let's be honest here. Hard drugs aren't even remotely as
prevalent in schools as they are in modelling agencies. I'm not saying
they're as prevalent, but school kids are using them.
Lolo Ray:
I don't know where you're
from It's on my profile.
Lolo Ray:
but in my school no one tried
cocaine I'm assured that cocaine is available at secondary schools if you
look.
However, proper chaperoning would ensure that they would not be exposed to the
worst of it in the modelling world. That's what's needed, not a head-in-the-sand
attitude of hiding them away completely.
Lolo Ray:
[Rick Martin: ...]Perhaps you
have never come across a female teenager Two daughters, currently 16 and
19. I'm very well aware that their bodies are still developing slightly, but I
said they don't grow much.
My point, though, is that they don't have the bodies of girls - they have
women's bodies. |
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| Date: 2007-07-19 19:57 Thanks! I had to wonder about the UK perspective on this.
If the same report came out here in the US I would have suspected it was
designed as publicity, a sound bite for a special interest issue advocacy group
rather than to address actual health concerns.
For example, the loony whose group claimed the winner of "American Idol" was
overweight - not - and thus should not have won. (Said loony being subsequently
arrested for trashing the dessert table at a YMCA ice cream social ... )
Or right wing Christianist groups whose agenda is to keep women "in their proper
role" by fearmongering about the evils of the media. Drugs! Sex! Anorexia!
Aieee! Send us your money!!!
Not that there aren't real problems. There are. The opportunity for fame and
celebrity can cloud anyone's judgement, resulting in bad decisions, negative
consequences, and unethical actions by those who claim to have the keys to the
glamorous lifestyle. But it's better to address things honestly and rationally,
rather than by generating hysteria - a strategy that's been somewhat lacking in
the States recently 
Theo |
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 ID: 194372 Posts: 23 | Date: 2007-07-19 20:11 Teenage girls other than those in modelling are equally likely to suffer eating
disorders. A very mixed signal is being given to teenagers of both sexes by
Governments and Health departments. On the one hand they are told they are too
fat and need to lose weight as it's unhealthy then they're too thin. Most models
stand a better chance of avoiding the extremes because they know far better what
the extremes are and generally professionals can be more readily available to
help. Peer pressure in school and low esteem re far more frequent problems . |
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