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 ID: 167467 Posts: 507 | Date: 2007-08-05 15:41 Dear mods,
I'm not trying to be cocky or fussy, but I just want to tell words from my
heart.
I love this site so much. It is easy to explore, easy to use, and takes short
time to open, unlike any other modeling sites. But surely, this site has
negative sides. Here it goes, let me put them on numbers:
1. The contest. You see, the photography contest and the mister
gentleman contest are not yet closed, and there are only few participants. It is
very unproffesional to say, but it is not held seriously. IMO, if Jurgita.com
wants to held an event, or contest, then it should be held seriously. With some
volunteers to work on making the contest big and real, or some workers to make
the contest perfect. From what I saw, there are only few people / moderators
working on the contest. Like Yana and Rasa. Where are the other moderators? I
saw some profiles and found that they are activists or moderators, but I haven't
seen what they are working on beside making articles.
I saw the contest board and read there that the winners will get many surprizes.
What surprisez? From what I saw it is only upgraded membership, not even any
sign added to the winners' profile that they won another contest in Jurgita.com.
Not even interview.
My friend wanted to be a sponsor, but Jurgita.com can't add a banner or
something to advertise my friends' online shop site-I've asked Rasa about it.
The only thing Jurgita.com can give to the sponsor is making an article about
the sponsor. Surely it is not effective for the sponsor. She can't get any
benefits from that, looking at how 'dead' the forum is. Looking at how the
article easly removed from the page. And just admit it, not many people want to
read the articles!
Jurgita.com has to renovate the homepage, not the forum page?! They have to make
a room for banners or advertises so that the money from the sponsors of the site
could be used for further needs, like prizes for winner of contestants, etc.
IMO, the events, competitions, or contests informations should be placed not in
the forum, but it has to have its own page, so visitors could see that there is
contest going on and they would interested to join and explore Jurgita.com.
I saw another site of modeling, yes I'm comparing. The site had the real prizes
for the competitions winner. Their contest was sponsored by Yahoo! etc. The
winner would go on a trip to Europe, and get $1000 cash. And also they would
have photoshoots with proffesional photographers. The site is not as easy to
explore and use as Jurgita.com, but they have the other things that Jurgita.com
doesn't have. They lure people to join their site and to pay for their
memberships etc.
However, the unproffesionalism of Jurgita.com contests doesn't stop here. I saw
the contest board again. Yana said that there will be proffesional judges to
judge the contestants. But what did it end with? Yana asked people to PM her and
give her lists of which of their favourite models. Yana asked unproffesional
people. And so it ended up with no difference. I thought Yana should have asked
some members, don't have to be proffesional but at least they got to have
critical minds to judge the models, to be the judges and judge the models at the
end of the competiton and vote.
Don't talk like-we are not a big site! Or- we don't have much money. Or- we
don't have proffesional crews! Because those are exactly what I'm talking about!
Jurgita.com has to have proffesional crews to expand the site. Those aren't
excuses?! Jurgita.com has to be renovated! Get sponsors for the contests. Add
banners to have more income. Get more exposure!
2.The dead site.I'm really sad looking back at the time when I
joined Jurgita.com the very first time... Comparing the situation to now, it is
so much different. Jurgita.com now is pretty dead. Where are people? Where's
Cindy? Where's Yana? Where's Rima? Where are the people those are used to be
parts of Jurgita.com. Or at least we should have other people to make the forum
crowded! I see those are 59 people registered on 24 hours. But where are they?
Why aren't they showing theirselves?
IMO Jurgita.com has to do something to get more exposure in the internet
world.
Other suggestions coming soon.
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 ID: 166375 Posts: 521 | Date: 2007-08-06 04:03 The contests are not professional and never were. I think everyone knows they
are amateur and they are just an activity for members. If there were prizes like
1000$ there should be much more security added and so on. This time it was so
much cheating that i even think it was the last time we are trying to held the
contest. I will not mention names as i believe it is obvious. Yana is gone
somewhere, she does not reply to me..
Whats the point to close the contest if there are 5 participants?
Its summer, people are on vacation, not on jurgita.com
Jurgita will not be shining/ blingning and so on site with more banners than
reality. Its not the point of this site. If it was so i would never joined it at
first.
The main thing is that there is no normal way of making the payment and until it
is so why should we expand everywhere if we cannot accept payments.
Its not a dead site, its just summer and payment problems. There is not much i
can do in both of these.
You all know how to find me and tell me your ideas if you have some. Posts like
this one is not much help as i am not blind as well.Love to Love |
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ID: 167467 Posts: 507 | Date: 2007-08-06 09:31 Rasa N.:
The contests are not professional and never were. I think everyone knows they
are amateur and they are just an activity for members. If there were prizes like
1000$ there should be much more security added and so on. This time it was so
much cheating that i even think it was the last time we are trying to held the
contest.
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Oh man, Rasa, that is exactly points I'm trying to tell. We know we aren't
proffesionals, but why are the other sites can held proffesional contests with
amateur models? We are not profs, so what? I guess proffesional models won't
participate in a website contest??? I thought you've told us before that there
weren't cheaters, no cheatings, etc etc... and you confinced us that voters are
only accepted profiles? So how do they cheat now?
I thought there's the board for contests to held many other contests. You've
made that board. You've asked us if we want to have other contests, and so we
all said yes. Don't forget the contest board. Don't ignore it, and don't delete
it!
Whats the point to close the contest if there are 5 participants?
Its summer, people are on vacation, not on jurgita.com
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But still there are lots and lots of people out there wanna be models and not on
their vacations? That's exactly not a reason, nor an excuse. That's what I was
talking about, Rasa. That's why I said Jurgita.com needs to have more exposures
out there around the world. If Jurgita.com has more exposures, people will come
to the site, and they will participate on the contest, and the contest would do
great. With more than 5 participants.
Jurgita will not be shining/ blingning and so on site with more banners than
reality. Its not the point of this site. If it was so i would never joined it at
first.
>>This is tiring. Come one let's be honest. A site needs some spaces to
add banners. It got to have some sponsors to make extra income, so the site
could work properly. With extra money, the site could make a banner and add it
to the other sites, and make the site crowded! A crowded site is exactly the
point of a site?! There is no stupid people want to make a site if they don't
want it to be crowded. And I'm not talking MANY BANNERS as I'm also tired to see
a site with lots of banners in it. At least one or two banners. A banner for the
sponsor. I know Jurgita.com can make a space for one banner. There was this
friend of mine who was very serious to be the sponsor. But when I said that Rasa
you didn't do anything. You just told me that there's no room for a banner for
the sponsor.
The main thing is that there is no normal way of making the payment and until it
is so why should we expand everywhere if we cannot accept payments.
>>Okay this one thing I understand. But to expand the crowd would be very
great, wouldn't it? Anyway, what's wrong with expanding the site? To make the
site better. Is it wrong? To make the site crowded. You didn't make the site
only to make money, did you? Or is it the point of this site?
Its not a dead site, its just summer and payment problems. There is not much i
can do in both of these.
You all know how to find me and tell me your ideas if you have some. Posts like
this one is not much help as i am not blind as well.
>> Hey I wasn't trying to be bitchy. I was only saying my suggestions, as
I thought this is the board for SUGGESTIONS. Isn't it? I thought communicating
through forum would do better as other people could see as well and could post
their opinions too.
Now I do feel like posting this isn't much help, as you answer them wihtout
doing anything, or should I say excuses. Why did you make the suggestions board
if people with ideas and suggestions should just PM you? Why did you make it if
you're not thinking to do anything and always have answers of the suggestions
people are saying? I understand what you were thinkin Rasa. But still don't
understand and can't for some of them. I don't even see the "We'll try" words
here.
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| Date: 2007-08-06 15:35 Catherina Kurnia:
I don't even see the
"We'll try" words here. Catherina, I read through your post and through
Rasa's reply, and I'm with you on this one. You made what I thought were some
very valid points and some constructive suggestions, and Rasa has done little
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| Date: 2007-08-06 16:30 I am not going to even try to address the many issues that Catherina has
mentioned here, however, I would as an active member like to know in what way
the 'Cheating' went on in previous contests? I think members should have been
made aware of the cheating in in some way instead of just having to find mention
of it here!
Regarding the sponsers links subject I can see Rasas point! From my point of
view yes I would love my baner on front page here, however, I am a realist and
at a site with so many Agencies! Photographers & Industry Professionals
Jockeying for position and to get noticed I do not see how it could be possible,
I think if say a Photographer sponser had there banner take prime position then
it would cause ill feeling and resentment at this site. Perhaps a happy medium
would be to allow a re-worked heading in the actual contest pages where the
sponsers banners could be contained within that area?
As a membership activity idea, the contests are good, I think we all knew there
would be teething troubles at first! If the feeling is that there should be more
of an incentive to participate in these more amateur contests, then perhaps
asking members for an entrance fee may solve the problem, it could be taken
under the heading of that particular contest in the same way as up-grade or
purchasing points! Then when entry is closed the total amount collected be
distributed percentage wise amongst prize winners!
Just a few ideas! Best wishes from
MIKE!
NOTE: I think more moderators would be great news, I know Karl is another than
tries to do a first class job here and has much much to do! |
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ID: 167467 Posts: 507 | Date: 2007-08-07 11:48 UK Indulgence:
Regarding the sponsers links subject I can see Rasas point! From my point of
view yes I would love my baner on front page here, however, I am a realist and
at a site with so many Agencies! Photographers & Industry Professionals
Jockeying for position and to get noticed I do not see how it could be possible,
I think if say a Photographer sponser had there banner take prime position then
it would cause ill feeling and resentment at this site. Perhaps a happy medium
would be to allow a re-worked heading in the actual contest pages where the
sponsers banners could be contained within that area?
>> Of course they should set up the banner. Not ANY BANNER. Or ANY
advertisement. If they really are going to make space for banners, they should
choose which banner or which sponsor is worth enaugh to be in the front page.
Ah, anyway, this is no use talking like this as I can't see the point and so
disappointed for the excuses.
Then where else should I say my feelings and suggestions to this site? THIS IS
THE BOARD FOR SUGGESTIONS I guess? Am I wrong to post my suggestions here? And
see, what did Rasa say? No use. NO use no use no use of this board. Really they
should have deleted this board.
There are lost of moderators here but not many of them has the 'power' to do
what Rasa can. I don't even think Yana have the 'power' to do anything too.
What's the point of being a moderator if you can only accept profile, delete
posts, remove links, without even having the power to make this site a better
place.
The banner I was talking about, is a banner for sponsor. Like sponsor of Photo
Model Contests, who's giving gifts for the winners. Banner for photographers?
Hey you saw faces of selected models, photographers etc on front page didn't
you? And they stay there like 1 week. Taking the prime position of the other
models, photographers, etc. Isn't it similar with banners you were talking
there, Mike?
And I don't think asking for fee is not good at all. You read Rasa's excuse
about payments, didn't you?
Oh really, this is wasting my time. Now I'm suggesting to delete this board as
there's exactly no use of having suggestions board when all you can say are
excuses without 'trying'.
But remember, if you do not do anything to make this site better and more
crowded, Jurgita.com will be under the other modeling sites which are getting
better and better and better with MANY MODERATORS taking over the JOBS.Visit my website! It's HERE |
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ID: 166375 Posts: 521 | Date: 2007-08-08 02:49 So, a disappointed person is so disappointed that asks me to throw everything
and do as one says. I do not have any excuses as i dont feel i should excuse. I
do not want to promise as i am not the one who decides. This board is for
suggestions, but there are no suggestions in your posts. There are the negative
points (which i see myself) and the solving i should also find myself.. You want
contest with sponsors and we do not have resources for that and its not an
excuse it the reality which im angry at, you are angry and maybe lots of other
are angry as well. Contests are just activities and not your path to the future
career.
You have one point - disappointment and a time waisting. I can see all the needs
to change it and the reality on the whole this site, thats the main difference.
From my seeing there was your friend who wanted to be the sponsor. Ok, lets say
we would do so and add his/her banner. Then someone would ask why his and not
mine, i would be also interested in adding my banner. Maybe the other sponsor
would suit more as well, a big public discussion about how unfair the choosing
of the banner was. Someone would say it was Cathys friend, she and rasa have
decided it. Wow, what a cheating!!! Many disappointments. Have you thought about
that before writing your long post.
So now as always lets make it clear. Write your suggestions like:
1. I want the contest would be ..........
Clearly written clear suggestion and then we will see if i can promise anything
or not. You want to participate in expanding the site, ok, thats great, as for
the moment i am alone on this. Lets find a way to solve it together.
The first thing that comes to my head is that you feel a wish and the reality is
the same. Well it is not and its not an excuse its just how it is  There are steps which
we have to take for the ideas to become true. I do not feel you understand
that.
I will not promise to do what i cant, sorry thats not my type. I would never
read this board if it would not be interesting for me. I can see the fire in
your words and I like it, but I also see that you are writing me your complaints
(which i can see myself) and you are not giving me a clear step what could be
improved, so where is that suggestion.Love to Love |
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 ID: 170792 Posts: 688 | Date: 2007-08-08 03:31 I read all wat is written above n I was  by the
arrogant/harsh way people seem to be expressing themselves
I'll start at th top...Cathy. You seem to have very nice points for sure but u
shld atleast put them down in a nice way. Remember urs is a suggestion not a
command. If u want ur suggestions to b put into consideration u shld atleast
establish a rapport between you n th moderators. Again u sound kinda annoyed
about th case btwn ur friend n Jurgita but let not anger be ur drive. Have you
thought of how many other pple want their banners up here in Jurgita? If at all
Jurgita couldn't do it they should av had a sufficient reason
ok..Rasa...Being a moderator ...by now u have come across so many different
kinds of pple. Try not to engage in such harsh remarks. Just take th points
which seem of benefit n leave th rest.n...eeer... Yes u have powers in th site
but dont b dismissive otherwise pple will shy off giving suggestions which wld
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ID: 166375 Posts: 521 | Date: 2007-08-08 03:51 Sorry, I did not want to be rude or anything. I am just sad to see how things
going here.
Yesterday I have lost someone from my closest family, maybe some of my words are
not considered very well, its just hard to think for me right now. Looks like
everything is falin apart, even our community.Love to Love |
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ID: 170792 Posts: 688 | Date: 2007-08-08 03:57 Rasa N.:
Sorry, I did not want to be rude or anything. I am just sad to see how things
going here.
Yesterday I have lost someone from my closest family, maybe some of my words are
not considered very well, its just hard to think for me right now. Looks like
everything is falin apart, even our community.
Am sorry to hear Rasa... God will take you through. Just hang on there n try n
take it easy. Things wont go further than u can handle. Am with you in prayers |
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| Date: 2007-08-08 07:47 Rasa N.:
Sorry, I did not want to be rude or anything. I am just sad to see how things
going here.
Yesterday I have lost someone from my closest family, maybe some of my words are
not considered very well, its just hard to think for me right now. Looks like
everything is falin apart, even our community.
Rasa I have actually entered a suggestions posting above, yet it seems to be
dismissed amongst personal issues and as Luica says, conflict!
May I suggest that your last line of remark is not one that should be heard from
a respected person who is an integral part of jurgita! community will definately
break down if these words our heard from above!
Best wishes and lets us all move forward please from
MIKE. |
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| Date: 2007-08-08 08:08 Best wishes and condolences Rasa. A prayer to you and your family.
Dont let things here get to you, no one should. It is just business. Nothing
personal.
Take care. |
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| Date: 2007-08-08 08:13 On an advisory note!
Regarding input and suggestions, May I just draw your attention to the fact that
Jurgita is still advertising on the front page the enrty for PRE-TEEN FASHION
SHOW! Despite my forum recently with Model Discussions!
Please see topic: SHOULD JURGITA BE ALLOWING PRE-TEEN BLOGS WITH DATE! TIMES &
VENUES!
The person who posted this is still not verified and I would say Jurgita is
wrong to keep showing this! please read that topic and responses!
I have advised regarding this and other matters here to do with child safety yet
nothing is done, my concern is that something bad may happen in the future and
it could come about through lack of attention to detail here at Jurgita! |
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ID: 167467 Posts: 507 | Date: 2007-08-08 09:27 Well so sorry if you see my post as complaints and not suggestions. But
I was always taught to make and see complaints as well as critiques as
suggestions.
About the banner thing again.
I know there are sooo many people who want to have their banners on front page.
Then why don't they ask for it? Actually she's not my friend. I met her in forum
and asked her wether she wants to be a sponsor or not, because I saw, before,
Yana wanted some sponsors, and asked UK Indulgence to be the sponsor of the
first PMC. I hope you KNOW what I was trying to do. I was just trying to make
the contest more colorful and enjoyable.
And you know that a lot of people want to have their banners on front page of,
for example, Lovemail. And where do you think lovemail got those sponsors? Did
Lovemail asked every company to be its sponsors??? No. Maybe one or two
companies wanted to be its sponsors. The companies asked Lovemail. And so
Lovemail agreed. And that's it.
Where there's a will, there's a way.
I just couldn't take the point of what you were saying. Maybe our thoughts are
just very very different. But saying the things like, "Then someone would ask
why his and not mine, i would be also interested in adding my banner. Maybe the
other sponsor would suit more as well, a big public discussion about how unfair
the choosing of the banner was. Someone would say it was Cathys friend, she and
rasa have decided it. Wow, what a cheating!!! Many
disappointments.-----------------------> then why don't they ask??? Again,
this is confusing for me. Thenhow do you think those other small sites *SMALL
SITES* have sponsors without problems??? I don't think people will be
disappointed because their banners aren't added. They will ask to have their
banners to be added the next time, after the old banner deleted.
After all, no don't discuss the banner thing again. I was just trying to make my
point and you didn't seem to try or think further. Have you thought about that
before writing your long post?
Just be fair. If I own a site, I will add a banner of the first company who
asked to be my sponsor. BUT if there are many companies asking me to add their
banners, then the choosing should be fair. THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS!!! We just
need to think further. But however, sometimes to think toooo farrr awwwaayyyy
from rationality could cost negativity.
About the proffesionality of the contest. I know the participants are not
amateurs. But at least the contest even if it's only a small contest and only
event for members, Yana the moderators said there are many surprises for the
prizes. And she didn't tell us any details. And what the winner got was only
upgraded membership, without anything else, unlike the first contest. And I was
like, 'where's the proffesionalism of the mods?' yes Yana had promised those
prizes. And I was disappointed. I don't mean I want to get MORE MORE MORE gifts.
I don't even hoping to get any prizes. Being in the contest is more than enaugh
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ID: 167467 Posts: 507 | Date: 2007-08-08 10:00 LUCIA: I didn't mean to be harsh. Everybody who knows me for a pretty long time
here knows how I speak up my mind.
And should be nice to moderators? Of course I was trying. BUt I just couldn't
set up my words to make it sounds nicer for those suggestions. Really, I wasn't
trying to be harsh, rude, etc. Anyway,
WHY do you think I posted my suggestions?
WHY do you think I still posted my replies after all Rasa said about my first
post?
WHY do you think I was very disappointed?
WHY do you think I AM STILL ACTIVE IN THIS FORUM? I'M NOT EVEN A MODERATOR?-I
don't even get A LOT OF JOBS from Jurgita than jobs I get from my country.
WHY do you think I wanted to waste my time writing this after I know my
suggestions won't ever be made?
WHY???
Because I'm such a fussy girl without anything to do? Because I'm such a stupid
girl without knowing what I was doing? Because I'm such an idiot girl without
knowing what I was talking?
WHAT will you do if you love this site so much seeing it getting quiet and quiet
and quiet and dead and getting behind of the other better sites BUT you can't do
anything because you are not old enaugh to try to participate of changing this
site and making it better? STAND STILL???
I'm not that kind of girl. Don't underestimate me just because I'm Indonesian,
and not yet 18.
And I am used with this kind of problems because of me speaking up my opinions.
SINCE I AM ALWAYS THE FIRST one who's brave enaugh or have the will and the
spirit to speak up my mind.
Now I will ask you who read this, *oh and Lucia I'm not pointing this
particularly at you* have you thought about the things I wrote before? If you
have, then why didn't you speak it up? Why don't you tell the moderators and
make them think of how making this site better??? And I guess I've read a lot of
posts asking, 'where's everybody? where's what where's who etc etc' and asking
about the contests which are still open and never be closed.
Now that I know where this post will end, Rasa just please delete this. I'm
still thinking that there's no use of me trying to tell my opinions as the mods
are not answering it the nice way a real mod should have answered-I'm sorry I
know mods are human but being a mod is a job. And in a job you have to be
proffesional.
I'm only a member and I know I am a good member. At least I'm trying to be one.
And if a mod can't treat his member nicely than what's the point of bulding a
site? A network?
Anyway, Rasa did you say you are totally alone? I though Carib Goodies and the
other mods and activists which I know are a lot here, are there for you to help.
Maybe you just need to share one of them your jobs. If not, why should you give
them the moderator sign and VIP membership? Like one of the member here is know
is a VIP because she/he was told to be an activist but I don't even see her/his
posts and activity or appearance here.
And my 18th birthday is 2 months away. Maybe you want me to help you if I'm
still in Jurgita. I've been here since last year, anyway, just remembered.Visit my website! It's HERE |
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 ID: 182744 Posts: 1741 | Date: 2007-08-08 23:59 OK.
Time to shove this wild ride into park.
I'm locking the subject since nothing productive is coming from further
discussion and personalities seem to be getting involved.
Note for the record that there is a difference between a moderator and an
administrator. For future reference, let us keep suggestions short, sweet and to
the point.
Samuel Clemens a.k.a. Mark Twain, once wrote: [i]I am sorry this letter is so
long. I did not have time to make it shorter.[/]
Take the time, good people, to review what we say before we post it.
That said, not all suggestions may be implemented for various reason, but all
suggestions are important and worthy of consideration. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should  |
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