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 ID: 114505 Posts: 1096 | Date: 2007-09-08 04:43 Send in the Saints.
Peter was like "the Rock"...
Cheers to the 'alter' call for a NO AGE= = Gap.
Ringing front desk bell;.
Can we get bigger cropping size for Forum photo uploads?
[Sorry, but some cropping actually cuts into the Natural Flow of Finished
Pictorials.
SO-O, Tack that on the list of things to do --PLEASE & Gr8* Thank YOU! |
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| Date: 2007-09-08 19:16 In summary of the posted responses here it is clear to see that removal
of age is not the issue!
With kind thanks to Karl & Rick we are well versed in the laws regarding images
of minors!
Everyone knows now my own views!
We have now a greater clarity on the problems facing Jurgita and also the
problems we see as needing addressing!
May I suggest a following simplistic 'Possible' sollutions that could move us
forward:
1/ Registration of minors should require a consent by Parent/Guardian!
(With my own site I will only add after an e-mail is received by Parent/guardian
to give consent and I also reccomend that selected images are sent at the same
time, thus ensuring a parent has approved! This does not always happen I
realise, but I am talking 'Ideals' and guidelines here)
2/ Moderation of differing areas of Jurgita be carried out by those with
specific knowledge or active involvement in that area!
(ie: Someone with great knowledge of Modelling Agencies & scams moderates that
area! Someone with a great knowledge and awareness regarding pre-teen and teen
moderates that area and so on! moderation issues could be sanctioned and
endorsed quickly by someone overseeing all moderation!
3/ Age is re-instated on profiles but D.O.B and reference to Town is ommitted
for security purposes
(This information can be obtained if relevant when parties concerned are in
contact and therefore not a concern of Jurgita)
4/ Main/Default photos of all models, talents and members should be a clear
facial image only! The other images at their ports being otherwise!
(This way Google search, google ad sense and other web-crawlers only pick up the
main facial photos of members! This would not of course be relevant to Industry
professionals particularly, unless they wish to show their own personal
image)
5/ New members should not be allowed to place BLOGS or MESSAGES before
verification!
(This is frightening that this is possible - I have noted pre-teen events
advertised by people un-verified here with addresses and I have commented on
that! It simply cannot be allowed! In addition since free messaging I am now
getting all types of dating messenges from unknown people! Next I will be
getting the African scam letters as they are free! The ones about the family
needing to get the riches out of the country lol!
Would you like the examples from other sites jurgita?)
In addition I would suggest that certain forum areas are more clearly defined
with perhaps a restriction on age for more 'Adult' subjects! Again I do not no
how, it is simply a Common sense thing from a 'Realist' lol!
Just a few ideas to move us on I hope! Perhaps others can expand on this and we
will pull together in a more progressive way to help make our site a Safer and
more Profitable, fun place to be!
Best wishes from
MIKE! |
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| Date: 2007-09-09 08:41 The following persons images were banned from the internet some time ago:
http://www.jurgita.com/models-id155442.html
Yet we have them here as a ligitimate member! This is not a member! it is
someone registering for reasons unknown and hidden agenda pretenting to be that
person!
This is simple schoolboy stuff Jurgita! They registered and added photos from
banned photos! the photos even show the original www. source! Yet no one picked
up on it????
I can give you the link to why the model and person promoting was banned from
the internet and links were removed if you wish? there were many others! So why
can someone add those photos here now and they are still here today? After all
we talk about?
The profile name is Amber C yet the photos say
whitney-model.com
I checked these kinda things out long long before geting involved in age related
issues! I am so dissapointed with Jurgita! Would you like me to point out the
other fake ones here? Find the pervs behind them? I am opening your eyes
finally, but I tried doing this tactfully before in messages!
Beware sandra teen model was someone that everyone was concerned about on the
internet for years now - Due to unsuitable images for her age and a un-healthy
adult following! [b]Oh I just saw she is a member here! Oh Wow how can that be!
This is very very niave![/b]
I think it is about time you really did some checking here!
If you doubt that then put
whitney-model.com into a google search with filter off and see what you get
ok?
It may give you an insight into the profile saying that they are her! |
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 ID: 146728 Posts: 91 | Date: 2007-09-08 21:13 I've been saying minors have to be tightly monitored and parental oversight
established for some time.
I've also discussed in earlier mod threads about what pics are age appropriate.
At the time glamour was given the Ok as long as no crotch or butt shots.
Apart from the legal issues this is a topic I’m interested in exploring,
anyone familiar with candid pics and youtube dance videos popping up pts and
teens are posing and dancing provocatively without coaching.
There is a also the artistic question and whether we bow down to the same
hysteria that has people going off about bare nipples but are Ok with extreme
violence on tv.
A lot of food for thought.
BTW my 2cents on the display of age, that shouldn’t be an issue if the pics
are ok and parents have OK the bio and pics. |
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| Date: 2007-09-08 22:18 Karl yes I am fully aware of that sittuation with childsupermodels and never
bothered to mentioned those things historically here, assuming Jurgita my site,
were on top and above that!
That is why I am so amazed that a simple girl from guildford in Uk can add
anything she wishes at the age of 13 like a teen dating site or myspace and
Jurgita wonders what went wrong!
My 14yo son saw it coming a mile off! He commented on that original problem
profile and others and knew where they would b headed!
So how sad are adult members that allow them? |
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ID: 146728 Posts: 91 | Date: 2007-09-08 22:55 UK Indulgence while I'm looking for parental oversight I had no problem with the
uk girls pic. If that one was a problem the whole teen photographic industry
would have to be closed down or on similar lines no teen bikini or underwear
pics.
BTW considering Paypal it looks like they are run by ultra conservatives as they
have closed down many accounts that would be considered mainstream glamour. |
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| Date: 2007-09-08 23:42 Hi Mike,
Your absolutely right... I also saw a young 15 year old posing and suggesting
her bottoms were coming off. Is that not only illegal but against what this site
is trying to promote? Just a thought ..
Sheryl |
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 ID: 2 Posts: 20 | Date: 2007-09-09 04:27 hello everybody:
here are the answers to your thoughts:
1. I think you all dont know, but whole site, all pictures are moderated, not
only models under 18. All pictures are carefuly checked, but it seems that
moderators didnt find anything wrong with that picture, I dont see anything
wrong either. Of course there can be issue with texts, everything was checked,
but it seems it looked ok for many moderators.
2. UK most of your thought leads to one thing - banining models under 18. Its
because what you are proposing takes too much time, too many resources, too
costly.. we are searching for happy medium.
3. parent consent... how do you imagine to do that? how do you know that consent
is given by the parents, not by anyone else? its impossible to implement..
anyone can write - I'm a parent, I approve the pics. We will end the same way,
google and other companies dont care if the consent is or not. they banned us
without notification.
4. active moderation - that means we need more moderators, who can work, who can
spend their time.. its not so easy to find. traffic to the site is quite big and
it takes a lot of time to do that.
5. main photos - clear facial. we dont have a problem with main pics. we can
install the script for face detection in photo, but I think the site will become
boring and it will look closer to dating site, not modeling.
6. new members cant post anything, unless approved. that was since the start.. I
think there is a bug for blogs only. we will fix that.
7. regarding model Amber C. Same reason - moderators approved it. What do yoy
advise to do? to change moderators, because they made a mistake? its really hard
to trace fakes, but we try. if you find something, please send via tickets
system for removal.
8. carib - such accounts you should send via tickets system, they will be
removed. We dont posses information like that... If you know something its
better to tell..
9. Simon - we dont know what is age OK now. I gave an example, it looks ok for
me, but it was not ok for google. Nobody knows what is ok for google. |
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ID: 146728 Posts: 91 | Date: 2007-09-09 05:49 I bet onemodelplace hasn't lost its paypal and it has models under 18. So what
gives? |
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ID: 146728 Posts: 91 | Date: 2007-09-09 05:50 Cheri Clark just spotted your bio on onemodelplace and it said you do glamour.
To you what does that imply and at what age do you think models should be able
to do glamour? |
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ID: 2 Posts: 20 | Date: 2007-09-09 05:53 ask them how. we dont know.
Simon Moffitt:
I bet onemodelplace hasn't lost its paypal and it has models under 18. So what
gives?
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ID: 2 Posts: 20 | Date: 2007-09-09 06:01 here is Jurgita profile at mother agency site:
jurgita
there are some glamour pics.
what is glamour? I think there are very different opinions on this. in real
modeling business there are plenty of model under 18 presenting bikini
collections, etc.
18 years model is quite old model already.
Simon Moffitt:
Cheri Clark just spotted your bio on onemodelplace and it said you do glamour.
To you what does that imply and at what age do you think models should be able
to do glamour?
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ID: 146728 Posts: 91 | Date: 2007-09-09 06:28 I've sent a message to them and will report back.
To me glamour is photography concentrating on the model and differing degrees of
sex appeal. Hard to get away from that. |
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| Date: 2007-09-09 07:12 Simon Moffitt:
UK Indulgence while I'm looking for parental oversight I had no problem with the
uk girls pic. If that one was a problem the whole teen photographic industry
would have to be closed down or on similar lines no teen bikini or underwear
pics.
BTW considering Paypal it looks like they are run by ultra conservatives as they
have closed down many accounts that would be considered mainstream glamour.
Not ultra-conservatives! Just responsible adults/parents! Socially aware
people!!
Are you a Parent Simon? Do you not know what is going on in this
world?
Re; The photo! It said 'This One Is For The Boys!! Her e-mail addy was on the
next!!!
Her friend was with her on the next!!! It was a Young girl saying
'Come and get me boys'
PLEASE GET REAL HERE! |
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| Date: 2007-09-09 07:16 Cheri Clark:
Hi Mike,
Your absolutely right... I also saw a young 15 year old posing and suggesting
her bottoms were coming off. Is that not only illegal but against what this site
is trying to promote? Just a thought ..
Sheryl
Thank you Sheryl! Finally an outside impartial response here!
YAY!!
Jurgita and those respresenting should not be fighting this! We are not against
you! We are trying to get this sorted here and then hopefully back on the road
to profitability!
In any business if that means cutting out all the bad, then that is what is
required to make a fresh start! |
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| Date: 2007-09-09 07:20 Ugnius Kiguolis:
hello everybody:
here are the answers to your thoughts:
1. I think you all dont know, but whole site, all pictures are moderated, not
only models under 18. All pictures are carefuly checked, but it seems that
moderators didnt find anything wrong with that picture, I dont see anything
wrong either. Of course there can be issue with texts, everything was checked,
but it seems it looked ok for many moderators.
2. UK most of your thought leads to one thing - banining models under 18. Its
because what you are proposing takes too much time, too many resources, too
costly.. we are searching for happy medium.
3. parent consent... how do you imagine to do that? how do you know that consent
is given by the parents, not by anyone else? its impossible to implement..
anyone can write - I'm a parent, I approve the pics. We will end the same way,
google and other companies dont care if the consent is or not. they banned us
without notification.
4. active moderation - that means we need more moderators, who can work, who can
spend their time.. its not so easy to find. traffic to the site is quite big and
it takes a lot of time to do that.
5. main photos - clear facial. we dont have a problem with main pics. we can
install the script for face detection in photo, but I think the site will become
boring and it will look closer to dating site, not modeling.
6. new members cant post anything, unless approved. that was since the start.. I
think there is a bug for blogs only. we will fix that.
7. regarding model Amber C. Same reason - moderators approved it. What do yoy
advise to do? to change moderators, because they made a mistake? its really hard
to trace fakes, but we try. if you find something, please send via tickets
system for removal.
8. carib - such accounts you should send via tickets system, they will be
removed. We dont posses information like that... If you know something its
better to tell..
9. Simon - we dont know what is age OK now. I gave an example, it looks ok for
me, but it was not ok for google. Nobody knows what is ok for google.
My comments did not refer to the banning of under 18s in anyway - You have and
are still reading my responses incorrectly!
I provided suggestions!
I also think that in view of being advised of a fake profile with photos of a
minor that were banned from the internet over a year ago - You should remove it
immediately rather than say here about moderation! |
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ID: 2 Posts: 20 | Date: 2007-09-09 08:22 you need to create a ticket, or write me with some proves.. there is no problem
with the removal. we just need to know.
UK Indulgence:
My comments did not refer to the banning of under 18s in anyway - You have and
are still reading my responses incorrectly!
I provided suggestions!
I also think that in view of being advised of a fake profile with photos of a
minor that were banned from the internet over a year ago - You should remove it
immediately rather than say here about moderation!
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| Date: 2007-09-09 08:29 Ugnius Kiguolis:
you need to create a ticket, or write me with some proves.. there is no problem
with the removal. we just need to know.
[UK Indulgence: ...]
Ok Ugnius that is fine! I have not used 'Ticket system' I am certain
that others here feel better knowing that they can message you regarding
anything unusual!
Best wishes
MIKE! |
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| Date: 2007-09-09 13:44 Hi everyone,
As a relative newcommer to the modeling world, I have been called and emailed
many many times about my daughter. It seems that only one or two were truely
representatives that could help her in her career. The scams are so numerous
that I can not even mention them here. I am sure you are all aware of them--
I am not certain what "Glamour" refers to. (as someone mentioned) In my mind
that simply means shots of a girl wearing makeup, an eligant dress, updo with
the hair etc. and posing to look beautiful. Maybe I need to check out the real
ideas behind this- As for the posing in underwear, I do know that many agencies
require that girls take photos in their undergarments. These photos are not for
public display-- as some of the photos on this website. Cheri' has taken these
types of photos for an opportunity to apply for a commercial or photoshoot. (LL
Bean is one of them) However, they do not leave the agent's posession or are not
used for another purpose later on. This is what I was told. Jurgita is simply a
website for exposure to the business. Girls should never be allowed to download
pictures on this site when they are pulling clothing off or exposing their
breasts etc. Anyone can clearly see those girls who do not have a professional
picture!!! Why are they here? Real legitimate scouts and agencies are certainly
NOT going to pick these girls up and make them stars! Additionally, as some of
you are aware, the members are not always who they say they are. We all know who
I am talking about! He was banned, but that was only when I made a complaint
against him. These people are predators that feed on our children. This site
must clean it up, make parental involvement a must, and check out the people
that want to post pictures. If this can't be accomplished, then perhaps this
should be an adult site. If it is not cleaned up, I will pull Cheri' from the
site..
Sheryl |
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| Date: 2007-09-09 14:48 Cheri Clark:
Girls should never be allowed to download pictures on this site when they are
pulling clothing off or exposing their breasts etc. Anyone can clearly see those
girls who do not have a professional picture!!! Why are they here? Real
legitimate scouts and agencies are certainly NOT going to pick these girls up
and make them stars! Additionally, as some of you are aware, the members are not
always who they say they are. We all know who I am talking about! He was banned,
but that was only when I made a complaint against him. These people are
predators that feed on our children. This site must clean it up, make
parental involvement a must, and check out the people that want to post
pictures. If this can't be accomplished, then perhaps this should be an
adult site. If it is not cleaned up, I will pull Cheri' from the site..
Sheryl
I endorse all that Sheryl has said here as a caring mother! Cheri is actually
added at my own site, it gives her another place to get seen! I requested
Sheryls 'Parental Consent' prior to adding Cheri and since that time we liase on
suitable photos and I ask approval of any changes! There is a Banner Link to
Cheri's Jurgita Portfolio should people wish further information or contact, as
I know Sheryl will monitor responses here! |
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