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here is Jurgita profile at mother agency site:
jurgita
there are some glamour pics.
what is glamour? I think there are very different opinions on this. in real modeling business there are plenty of model under 18 presenting bikini collections, etc.
18 years model is quite old model already.


Simon Moffitt:

Cheri Clark just spotted your bio on onemodelplace and it said you do glamour. To you what does that imply and at what age do you think models should be able to do glamour?
ugnius
Agency "Supermodels"
Jurgita magazine

I've sent a message to them and will report back.
To me glamour is photography concentrating on the model and differing degrees of sex appeal. Hard to get away from that.

Simon Moffitt:

UK Indulgence while I'm looking for parental oversight I had no problem with the uk girls pic. If that one was a problem the whole teen photographic industry would have to be closed down or on similar lines no teen bikini or underwear pics.

BTW considering Paypal it looks like they are run by ultra conservatives as they have closed down many accounts that would be considered mainstream glamour.


Not ultra-conservatives! Just responsible adults/parents! Socially aware people!!
Are you a Parent Simon? Do you not know what is going on in this world?

Re; The photo! It said 'This One Is For The Boys!! Her e-mail addy was on the next!!!
Her friend was with her on the next!!! It was a Young girl saying
'Come and get me boys'

PLEASE GET REAL HERE!

Cheri Clark:

Hi Mike,

Your absolutely right... I also saw a young 15 year old posing and suggesting her bottoms were coming off. Is that not only illegal but against what this site is trying to promote? Just a thought ..

Sheryl


Thank you Sheryl! Finally an outside impartial response here! YAY!!

Jurgita and those respresenting should not be fighting this! We are not against you! We are trying to get this sorted here and then hopefully back on the road to profitability!
In any business if that means cutting out all the bad, then that is what is required to make a fresh start!

Ugnius Kiguolis:

hello everybody:
here are the answers to your thoughts:
1. I think you all dont know, but whole site, all pictures are moderated, not only models under 18. All pictures are carefuly checked, but it seems that moderators didnt find anything wrong with that picture, I dont see anything wrong either. Of course there can be issue with texts, everything was checked, but it seems it looked ok for many moderators.
2. UK most of your thought leads to one thing - banining models under 18. Its because what you are proposing takes too much time, too many resources, too costly.. we are searching for happy medium.
3. parent consent... how do you imagine to do that? how do you know that consent is given by the parents, not by anyone else? its impossible to implement.. anyone can write - I'm a parent, I approve the pics. We will end the same way, google and other companies dont care if the consent is or not. they banned us without notification.
4. active moderation - that means we need more moderators, who can work, who can spend their time.. its not so easy to find. traffic to the site is quite big and it takes a lot of time to do that.
5. main photos - clear facial. we dont have a problem with main pics. we can install the script for face detection in photo, but I think the site will become boring and it will look closer to dating site, not modeling.
6. new members cant post anything, unless approved. that was since the start.. I think there is a bug for blogs only. we will fix that.
7. regarding model Amber C. Same reason - moderators approved it. What do yoy advise to do? to change moderators, because they made a mistake? its really hard to trace fakes, but we try. if you find something, please send via tickets system for removal.
8. carib - such accounts you should send via tickets system, they will be removed. We dont posses information like that... If you know something its better to tell..
9. Simon - we dont know what is age OK now. I gave an example, it looks ok for me, but it was not ok for google. Nobody knows what is ok for google.



My comments did not refer to the banning of under 18s in anyway - You have and are still reading my responses incorrectly!
I provided suggestions!
I also think that in view of being advised of a fake profile with photos of a minor that were banned from the internet over a year ago - You should remove it immediately rather than say here about moderation!

you need to create a ticket, or write me with some proves.. there is no problem with the removal. we just need to know.

UK Indulgence:

My comments did not refer to the banning of under 18s in anyway - You have and are still reading my responses incorrectly!
I provided suggestions!
I also think that in view of being advised of a fake profile with photos of a minor that were banned from the internet over a year ago - You should remove it immediately rather than say here about moderation!
ugnius
Agency "Supermodels"
Jurgita magazine

Ugnius Kiguolis:

you need to create a ticket, or write me with some proves.. there is no problem with the removal. we just need to know.

[UK Indulgence: ...]



Ok Ugnius that is fine! I have not used 'Ticket system' I am certain that others here feel better knowing that they can message you regarding anything unusual!
Best wishes
MIKE!

Hi everyone,

As a relative newcommer to the modeling world, I have been called and emailed many many times about my daughter. It seems that only one or two were truely representatives that could help her in her career. The scams are so numerous that I can not even mention them here. I am sure you are all aware of them--
I am not certain what "Glamour" refers to. (as someone mentioned) In my mind that simply means shots of a girl wearing makeup, an eligant dress, updo with the hair etc. and posing to look beautiful. Maybe I need to check out the real ideas behind this- As for the posing in underwear, I do know that many agencies require that girls take photos in their undergarments. These photos are not for public display-- as some of the photos on this website. Cheri' has taken these types of photos for an opportunity to apply for a commercial or photoshoot. (LL Bean is one of them) However, they do not leave the agent's posession or are not used for another purpose later on. This is what I was told. Jurgita is simply a website for exposure to the business. Girls should never be allowed to download pictures on this site when they are pulling clothing off or exposing their breasts etc. Anyone can clearly see those girls who do not have a professional picture!!! Why are they here? Real legitimate scouts and agencies are certainly NOT going to pick these girls up and make them stars! Additionally, as some of you are aware, the members are not always who they say they are. We all know who I am talking about! He was banned, but that was only when I made a complaint against him. These people are predators that feed on our children. This site must clean it up, make parental involvement a must, and check out the people that want to post pictures. If this can't be accomplished, then perhaps this should be an adult site. If it is not cleaned up, I will pull Cheri' from the site..

Sheryl

Cheri Clark:

Girls should never be allowed to download pictures on this site when they are pulling clothing off or exposing their breasts etc. Anyone can clearly see those girls who do not have a professional picture!!! Why are they here? Real legitimate scouts and agencies are certainly NOT going to pick these girls up and make them stars! Additionally, as some of you are aware, the members are not always who they say they are. We all know who I am talking about! He was banned, but that was only when I made a complaint against him. These people are predators that feed on our children. This site must clean it up, make parental involvement a must, and check out the people that want to post pictures. If this can't be accomplished, then perhaps this should be an adult site. If it is not cleaned up, I will pull Cheri' from the site..

Sheryl


I endorse all that Sheryl has said here as a caring mother! Cheri is actually added at my own site, it gives her another place to get seen! I requested Sheryls 'Parental Consent' prior to adding Cheri and since that time we liase on suitable photos and I ask approval of any changes! There is a Banner Link to Cheri's Jurgita Portfolio should people wish further information or contact, as I know Sheryl will monitor responses here!

First UK a position by paypal or google to cut that any legitimate agency that has under 18 models is hardly realistic or responsible as I’ve mentioned onemodelplace is still listing them. Better close down any models under 18 doing anything, some get off on taget catalogues.

Now as far as the pic I’ve only seen the one highlighted by Ugnius that was a portrait shot of the UK girl showing some cleavage. This doesn’t seem to be the one in question if I can see it I can then give a opinion. As far as the email address as a mod I would have rejected that pic on that grounds alone. As a mod I’ve raised and rejected pics of a 13/14trs who was doing provocative cleavage and ass shots in lingerie. So don’t tell me I’m not on the ball.

Lastly get with the real world if you haven’t caught on teens are using the internet to flirt to boys in a similar way to what they get up to when parents aren’t around. Instead of living in denial that they do things like this talk with their kids acknowledging this is what they are up to and that you just want them to be careful. Its either that or lock them up and stop them from viewing popular media and ban them form the internet and their phones.

To Sheryl I agree and if I had seen those pics I would have had them down. & I'm on record as a mod for taking suss accounts down and asking for parental oversight for all minors accounts.

Topic moderated...
Stop fighting!! this is NOT a place to fight and jump to each other.
respect each other opinion. All these fights doesnt add value to the site and doesnt help at all.
ugnius
Agency "Supermodels"
Jurgita magazine

Ugnius Kiguolis:

hello everybody:
here are the answers to your thoughts:
1. I think you all dont know, but whole site, all pictures are moderated, not only models under 18. All pictures are carefuly checked, but it seems that moderators didnt find anything wrong with that picture, I dont see anything wrong either. Of course there can be issue with texts, everything was checked, but it seems it looked ok for many moderators.
2. UK most of your thought leads to one thing - banining models under 18. Its because what you are proposing takes too much time, too many resources, too costly.. we are searching for happy medium.
3. parent consent... how do you imagine to do that? how do you know that consent is given by the parents, not by anyone else? its impossible to implement.. anyone can write - I'm a parent, I approve the pics. We will end the same way, google and other companies dont care if the consent is or not. they banned us without notification.
4. active moderation - that means we need more moderators, who can work, who can spend their time.. its not so easy to find. traffic to the site is quite big and it takes a lot of time to do that.
5. main photos - clear facial. we dont have a problem with main pics. we can install the script for face detection in photo, but I think the site will become boring and it will look closer to dating site, not modeling.
6. new members cant post anything, unless approved. that was since the start.. I think there is a bug for blogs only. we will fix that.
7. regarding model Amber C. Same reason - moderators approved it. What do yoy advise to do? to change moderators, because they made a mistake? its really hard to trace fakes, but we try. if you find something, please send via tickets system for removal.
8. carib - such accounts you should send via tickets system, they will be removed. We dont posses information like that... If you know something its better to tell..
9. Simon - we dont know what is age OK now. I gave an example, it looks ok for me, but it was not ok for google. Nobody knows what is ok for google.


I am so PROUD of the CONTENT of this POST--
Mr. Kiguolis:muscle::thumbup::thumbup:
I am in TOTAL agreeance with its perspective--
It is what I hoped for all along--:D
CONGRATULATIONS--:cool::cool:

May I add that the point of #5 is something I believed to be quite TRUE!
As you are experienced with your lovely wife, JURGITA, I think it would be at a disadvantage to revamp the site & cause Super Models & High Class Fashion Models an extreme disservice in trying to implement a procedure of only head shots.
Too many accounts would have to be put into temporary ban, seems how not many Super Models, etc., don't contain uplaods of just Facial Shots.

GREAT Deduction...
My best to you , your beautiful wife, & adorable son, Matt.
Take Care in your travels,
HugZzz & Support from:.
Tekhanei & _I.ON.U_
Whether it be :lips::lips: OR :muscle::muscle:. . ."TRUE BLUE" IS The GENE that fits ALL;)

I am pleased to hear of some changes here Ugnius and understand that you are
'ON THE CASE' regarding cleaning up some grey areas! that is all great!

I would not be so dismissive of some suggestions in this and other forums though, as members like to feel involved and offer information on a voluntary basis, so I would suggest more member input should be encouraged and possibly a voting sittuation for some changes at this site may bring about a more community feel and avoid the feeling of uncertainty that set this particular forum into havoc :cantlook:
best wishes from
MIKE!

Tekhanei?

UK Indulgence:

Tekhanei?



Thanks for noticing moi--(I think?)
Ah, SAY NO MORE KNAVE=--->
OUI MUSCLE MAN of LEANESS off the mountain treaded wheels...))___((
What-E?
HmMMm:.:shh:
EMAIL ME PLZ. & Danke Schon!;)
ASAP b4 parlour parlay.:cantlook:
Whether it be :lips::lips: OR :muscle::muscle:. . ."TRUE BLUE" IS The GENE that fits ALL;)

I saw pictures up for moderation for a five-year-old girl ID 208200. One shot is on a bed, but harmless, another shot is in a lttle bikini and I rejected it because it was awkward and her pose was shaded toward what one might suspect a five-year-old would think of as "growny". Another shot is a dead ringer for a Lolita poster with sunglasses and no clothing visible. Nothing was showing but the implication is there and I rejected it.

I'm no conservative and I believe in freedom of expression, but we have to avoid the appearence of impropriety to keep this website from being banned by businesses and countries. We have to police our selves.

As far as the kid goes, if her parents want to market her as a model, they have a couple of acceptable pictures and probably many more they could post. Since the child is stated as speaking English and Russian, their outlook may be way different than us uptight Americans, but I'm guessing that America is an important source of income for the site, so we have to moderate accordingly.
If I haven't been there, I'm still planning on going!
If I haven't done it, I've still got time to try!

Charles Griffin:

I saw pictures up for moderation for a five-year-old girl ID 208200. One shot is on a bed, but harmless, another shot is in a lttle bikini and I rejected it because it was awkward and her pose was shaded toward what one might suspect a five-year-old would think of as "growny". Another shot is a dead ringer for a Lolita poster with sunglasses and no clothing visible. Nothing was showing but the implication is there and I rejected it.

I'm no conservative and I believe in freedom of expression, but we have to avoid the appearence of impropriety to keep this website from being banned by businesses and countries. We have to police our selves.
As far as the kid goes, if her parents want to market her as a model, they have a couple of acceptable pictures and probably many more they could post. Since the child is stated as speaking English and Russian, their outlook may be way different than us uptight Americans, but I'm guessing that America is an important source of income for the site, so we have to moderate accordingly.


That was a well said response Charles, well put and I admire you observations!

Charles Griffin:

I saw pictures up for moderation for a five-year-old girl ID 208200. One shot is on a bed, but harmless, another shot is in a lttle bikini and I rejected it because it was awkward and her pose was shaded toward what one might suspect a five-year-old would think of as "growny". Another shot is a dead ringer for a Lolita poster with sunglasses and no clothing visible. Nothing was showing but the implication is there and I rejected it.

I'm no conservative and I believe in freedom of expression, but we have to avoid the appearence of impropriety to keep this website from being banned by businesses and countries. We have to police our selves.

As far as the kid goes, if her parents want to market her as a model, they have a couple of acceptable pictures and probably many more they could post. Since the child is stated as speaking English and Russian, their outlook may be way different than us uptight Americans, but I'm guessing that America is an important source of income for the site, so we have to moderate accordingly.


Sticking my neck out___o_!
Well said:muscle:, CHARLES:D...I am aware of the same photos as I rejected [D.S.] content...Now you can appologize, UK for indulging in insinuating that I didn't have standards.

PEACE & --I am a realist--AND, I too, would like to see it rain down in Africa...Hold the line, love isn't always "on time."
'Hair' TODAY, (Cy) ;) .:. NET=---> Tomorrow! :lol::lips:

Sorry you lost me sassy? I have not commented on the person charles talks of?
Please clarify? Thanx!

I agree with the age issue.. I wont ramble on, but most all the posts on here have hit the nail on the head..

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