Last post by Libby A. in topic More PhotosTopics: 2760Posts: 29225GRACE AND EXQUISITE MODELS INT'L Total results: 18 Pages: 1 [ 1] |
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 ID: 161101 Posts: 89 | Date: 2008-02-20 10:13 This is to inform everyone that I am not working with the above named agency i.e
exquisite models int'l. I have instructed them to stop using my photos. But my
photos were named Vivian Nappier on thier site. Please everyone should not this.
I'll be signing up with another agency in Nigeria very soon.sherlly butshy |
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 ID: 182744 Posts: 1442 | Date: 2008-02-20 20:11 Huh? and Double huh?
You can do that?
Explain please. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should  |
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Cheri D. Clark aka Frenchi |
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 ID: 209800 Posts: 336 | Date: 2008-02-20 23:18 Wow! I see what you mean. They are using your photos...
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1442 | Date: 2008-02-21 12:07 Yes, Cheri, but Grace has not said whether they listed her with or without her
permission.
One interesting thing is that the photos on their site are much more
professionally done than the photos on her profile here.
Grace made a statement out in the open without any back story. Are we to assume
by the tone of her post that the agency did something wrong? I do not know. I
cannot judge. Others should not try to make a judgment without at least a better
explanation.
Grace has made a very inflammatory statement and provided nothing to back it up. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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Cheri D. Clark aka Frenchi |
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ID: 209800 Posts: 336 | Date: 2008-02-21 14:15 Hmm.. I do see what you mean. She must elaborate on this..
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ID: 161101 Posts: 89 | Date: 2008-02-24 14:00 You can ask me any questions and I will answer. They listed me with my
permission. All the photos on this site and the ones I sent to them are
downloaded from the same CDs. They are a combination of photo sessions at
Cybermul studio and snap it studio. What else do you want to know?sherlly butshy |
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Cheri D. Clark aka Frenchi |
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ID: 209800 Posts: 336 | Date: 2008-02-24 19:26 So, if you sent the pictures to them you don't think they should use them? I am
not sure I understand what the complaint actually is... |
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1442 | Date: 2008-02-26 00:15 Cheri: I believe from the get go that I knew what her problem was. That is why I
posted my initial response to her statement. Be in this business as long as I
have and you get to recognize the same red flags waving again and again. Can you
figure out what happened, Cheri? The clues are there.
Grace O.:
This is to inform everyone that I am not working with the above named agency i.e
exquisite models int'l. I have instructed them to stop using my photos. But my
photos were named Vivian Nappier on thier site. Please everyone should not this.
I'll be signing up with another agency in Nigeria very soon.
Grace O.:
You can ask me any questions and I will answer. They listed me with my
permission. All the photos on this site and the ones I sent to them are
downloaded from the same CDs. They are a combination of photo sessions at
Cybermul studio and snap it studio. What else do you want to know?
The thing is, Grace, that the tone of your initial writing implies that they did
something wrong. You made it seem like they stole your images and posted under a
fictitious name.
Now the original impression you gave is turning out false. Your pictures and
promotional were done with permission. Should I also assume that you authorized
the use of a trade name? And what is with the difference in the stats on that
site and this site? Your height, build and location are different. Even your age
is different. So, which is the real you?
And I read their standard representation contract. Did you sign one of those as
well as permission to be listed and promoted by them? If so, have you read the
terms of that contract? It seems to me that your declaration of not being
represented by them would fly directly in the face of their terms for
cancellation of contract. Even if you gave notice of dissolution, you still seem
bound to them for a period of time.
For your sake, I certainly hope there was some malfeasance on their part in
representing you. For a fact, not being able to get gigs for a model does not
count as malfeasance or even proper grounds for instant, no obligation,
separation from an agency.
Fooling around with someone's business reputation without cause is not something
a smart person wants to do. It also makes most of us think twice about hiring
you. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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ID: 161101 Posts: 89 | Date: 2008-02-26 06:23 I am not complaining about anything, I'm only notifying everyone that I'm not
working with them anymore. All the information on my profile on this site is
very true and correct. When I registered with them, my photos and statistics
were posted on their site. I asked them to correct the mistakes they made on the
information about me. They corrected some.
They didn't steal my images. I sent them to them.
I notified Ibikunle(the Nigerian agent) about my intention for dissolution and
it was agreed that my photos won't be used by them anymore. I was suprised to
still see my photos on thier site with another person's name, statistics and
location!
Moreover, I joined them in the year 2006! AND I think I gave enough time for
seperation.It's not an instant separation.
I am not fooling around with someone's reputation.sherlly butshy |
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 ID: 186257 Posts: 243 | Date: 2008-02-26 06:39 so they use your pictures with another name without your permission? is it
legal? your situation is very confusing |
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ID: 161101 Posts: 89 | Date: 2008-02-26 07:13 Before I decided to stop working with them, my pictures were posted with my name
on thier site with my permission. After agreeing that my photos won't be used by
them, my photos were given another person's name and data.sherlly butshy |
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ID: 186257 Posts: 243 | Date: 2008-02-26 08:03 it doesn't sound right to me. it sounds like scam. but if it's ok with you, then
it's alright |
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1442 | Date: 2008-02-26 10:23 Grace:
I believe that there are still reciprocal legal agreements and treaties in place
between the United Kingdom and Nigeria from the colony days. If you have a
legitimate greivance against them, or believe you do, you should file a proper
complaint with authorities rather than ambiguous, unclear postings.
The contract terms stipulated by Exquisite are some of the toughest I have ever
seen in the industry...especially for non-exclusive representation. 40% to 50%
of earnings is rough but apparently legal. Six months to a year continual
residuals after cancellation is also a tough one...but you seem to have signed
for that. Be careful when signing. Do not just read a
contract...understand it!
Agencies will sometimes assign a stage name, trade name or fictitious name to
models...perfectly legal. Some agencies will even fudge stats for marketing
purposes. Fudging stats is not a good practice for an agency that wants to
maintain a solid reputation but not necessarily illegal. None of this, however,
should be done without consulting with you.
Since I bought a model agency I had initially made the decision not to place it
on the internet because of some of the bad reputation associated with an
internet presence. That seems to be changing as more and more legitimate
agencies are using the internet as an incredible marketing tool. My own company
is now in the process of launching an internet presence but one critical thing
continues to concern me: How in the world can an agency represent someone they
have never met or trained? How does one know that an agency recruiting through
the internet has properly vetted all of the models listed? I believe this
quagmire can be solved through a simple preponderance of evidence. Constant
communication, continually updated information and images, test shoots, video,
researchable credentials.
There is no way that a model can upload a bunch of pictures to me to be used as
their portfolio and I turn around and try to sell that model. No way. I have
someone on the ground interview, photograph and video tape. That is the only way
I can be certain I am dealing with a real live person and not some sort of
fraud.
I am a rookie in the world of internet representation but I firmly believe that
the hard and fast rules that have governed agencies for centuries must still
apply in an internet world. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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ID: 161101 Posts: 89 | Date: 2008-03-05 05:00 I didn't put up this post to confuse anyone. I just wanted to let everyone know
that I don't work with them anymore.
Since I was misrepersented in thier site, I was feeling unsafe with what else
they could do with my images or information.
I didn't sign thier representation contract and I don't work with them anymore.sherlly butshy |
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1442 | Date: 2008-03-05 23:12 Grace O.:
I didn't put up this post to confuse anyone. I just wanted to let everyone know
that I don't work with them anymore.
Since I was misrepersented in thier site, I was feeling unsafe with what else
they could do with my images or information.
I didn't sign thier representation contract and I don't work with them
anymore.
An interesting approach you have decided to take. Be careful.
I am not picking sides as to who is right or wrong in this issue between you and
the agency. I urge evryone once again to read and
understand. If English is not your first language and, if it is
and you have never learned how words are used to convey levels of intent,
please find someone educate in English or Law to interpret the
document for you.
Grace, you admitted in previous posts that you provided and electronic signature
for them. Just as good as pen and paper. If you read their terms and conditions
I will bet you did not understand them. I write and interpret law as one of my
many hats. U.S. law is based upon British Common Law so I have more than a
passing familiarity with the interpretations, applications, case histories and
precedents. Interestingly enough, if you know your history, most countries' laws
on this planet are based upon British Common Law.
Be careful models! Know what you are doing or ask for help
first!
Why does this entire situation on both sides remind me of the phrase in an
American cereal commercial: "Silly rabbit. Tricks are for kids."? Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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ID: 161101 Posts: 89 | Date: 2008-03-07 03:28 Carib Goodies:
[Grace O.: ...]
An interesting approach you have decided to take. Be careful.
I am not picking sides as to who is right or wrong in this issue between you and
the agency. I urge evryone once again to read and
understand. If English is not your first language and, if it is
and you have never learned how words are used to convey levels of intent,
please find someone educate in English or Law to interpret the
document for you.
Grace, you admitted in previous posts that you provided and electronic signature
for them. Just as good as pen and paper. If you read their terms and conditions
I will bet you did not understand them. I write and interpret law as one of my
many hats. U.S. law is based upon British Common Law so I have more than a
passing familiarity with the interpretations, applications, case histories and
precedents. Interestingly enough, if you know your history, most countries' laws
on this planet are based upon British Common Law.
Be careful models! Know what you are doing or ask for help
first!
Why does this entire situation on both sides remind me of the phrase in an
American cereal commercial: "Silly rabbit. Tricks are for kids."?
I only filled & submitted the online form. Is that a signature. Please explain.
I need to understand. I have asked for advice and help before taking this
action. The online form required that an applicant should have the requirements
stated in the contract form. Does filling the form means signing the contract?
Please explain more. Since you've been in the industry long before I, you should
be in a better position to advice.sherlly butshy |
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 ID: 137995 Posts: 1 | Date: 2008-03-20 10:36 this is funny so they gave you my name,i didn't know i had a twin bearing the
exact same name as me,this is ridiculous |
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ID: 161101 Posts: 89 | Date: 2008-03-21 12:41 Girl, your new shots are beautiful. But, I think it's too sexy. Nice shots!sherlly butshy |
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