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 ID: 236960 Posts: 9 | Date: 2008-03-31 18:58 ok so many scouts, agencies, companies and what not find amateur models on this
site. and usually they find those people by the pictures that they post up.
My question is... Is it really all about the picture and how you look or do they
look at it as seeing what you can become from the features that you have?
i ask this because my pictures are taken all from myself. i don't have those
amazing pictures from professionals. i have pictures that professional
photographers think are not competitive at all but i just want to make sure what
the photos really express to someone who hires a model. so please let me know
what you think  |
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 ID: 182744 Posts: 1741 | Date: 2008-04-01 02:25 It is all about the picture. After all...when hired it is for pictures of you,
agreed?
The difference between professional models and self down cam shots is like the
difference between Shakespeare and a bad romance novel. The differences between
homemade and professional are phenomenal. You may have heard the saying "A
picture is worth a thousand words"?
Well?
What do you think we see in the pictures you chose to advertise to the world
with? There is a place for raw images...in the Polaroid/Snap Shot section. That
is the real you. That is where we know what to work from to build our
imagery.
A model is never her true self. A model is an actor in all sense of the world.
It is a job.
When applying for a brick and mortar job, would you scribble your resume on a
scrap of paper and hand it in or would you be more successful taking you time
and presenting an impressive job?
Can you produce the type of imagery the commercial market is looking for?
Before we spend a dime on you, we had better be certain that you can produce
what we are looking for. We are never going to market the real you.
And, in case you were wondering...money is spent on you in researching long
before you are ever approached. Talent searches cost money. They take time. And
usually the people doing those searches are overwhelmed and very busy. Do you
believe the images on your portfolio would make someone stop and look twice?
Three times? To pass it along to someone else for an opinion? To make someone
decide to call you for a test or audition?
Answer those questions honestly to yourself and you will have an answer to your
post. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should  |
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ID: 236960 Posts: 9 | Date: 2008-04-01 10:08 ooooo i get it i
was always confused how to answer the question but yes that does make sense i
mean if i was an agency then i would want to see if they can produce the look i
need them to..which makes sense. but what if i cant get professional photos  then am i just not going
to go very far? |
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1741 | Date: 2008-04-02 00:54 So now you come upon that beast of reality...the catch 22.
If an agency sights you and wants you, the agency will pay for your test shoot
and all the photographs needed to properly promote you.
But how do you get an agency to notice you without paying for attractive
images?
My agency is brick and mortar and I am only now being convinced by others to
extend it out onto the web. A quagmire for me as I do not do anything business
wise without a good working model and business plan. With my agency, I meet
people face to face and decide on them. Some have excellent portfolios to show
me and some don't. Truth to tell, unless someone is shockingly attractive, their
portfolio does more to convince me than their physical presence does. So, a
model is at a liability without a good portfolio.
On the web, you cannot walk into my office and show me a portfolio. You cannot
verbalize your strong points to me. You cannot augment your photos with a
physical presence. Therefore, you web portfolio needs to be much stronger than
the one you carry on your person.
You have to decide for yourself whether or not you are willing to invest in your
career by shooting with a professional photographer. This is a gamble to take,
money wise, as even a grade A professional job will not get a person hired if
they do not have the look the market needs.
There are some very good photographers out there who will work TFI (trade for
images) if you approach them correctly. This can get you a portfolio without
spending money. It minimizes the personal risk to you if your modeling career
does not pan out.
Your profile address on Jurgita is something you want to put on your comp card
and business card. It is your satchel of 12x18 prints that you carry in your
purse rather than under your arms. It is the tool you hand brink and mortar
agencies so that they can look you up and review your work anytime they wish.
Every model should honestly think to him or herself: If I was an agency with big
bucks on the line, would I hire someone with a portfolio that looks like
mines?
This is be honest with yourself time. Have you studied the industry? Have you
researched it, found out where most of the jobs are and what type of people hav
ebeen hired for those jobs? You look around and there are models from all walks
of life, shapes and sizes in print ads, television ads, internet ads, etc. Those
models are all playing a role, usually a role suited to their look, build and
talents. Determine your own most likely area of modeling and target it with
pictures suited to the role you have determined that you best play. Market that,
and you have a much better chance of finding successful modeling gigs or even
being signed to an agency. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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 ID: 233204 Posts: 5 | Date: 2008-04-02 01:27 It is about the picture? I agree.. |
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 ID: 223398 Posts: 538 | Date: 2008-04-02 04:19 Of course what else can you be judged on if you want to be a modelKimberley |
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 ID: 236656 Posts: 3 | Date: 2008-04-02 07:40 its about the look I think, the look in the picture..
what like i mean is like the picture freezes you at specific point and the look
is like what the client is attracted to.. i mean is like the agent want to see
your original normal look because they only ask for posing when you receive
assignment
but spending money of professional shoot is not i think advisable if i don' have
agency, i just collect small basic simple photos of my close-up, my height and
like one happy emotion photo mybe taken by friends or family, that's nice.
mercy beacoup
-jr |
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ID: 236960 Posts: 9 | Date: 2008-04-02 09:43 yea thats exactly what i think but im hearing thats not how it goes  im
not sure |
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 ID: 181346 Posts: 112 | Date: 2008-04-02 10:11 Nicole C.:
yea thats exactly what i think but im hearing thats not how it goes im
not sure
its not all about the picture if you ask me. professional/published image cannot
achive what i want as not very amatuer (low quality) also.
i need something in between shortly
all i want to see is a model in normal/casual postitions. only then, i can
imagine how much work she/he requires from our side to get superbly on some
photo.
im aware that im on the web, and i cant call and resolve expences for travelling
of some model just according to some professional photo and if im not sure in
many other things - height, measurements, teeth.. so on. AND AGES!
so if i call any model from here for some job, i must be 95% sure that she/he is
maybe the one before she/he arrives at the airport.
so no - its all about model, not (only) their pictures :P |
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ID: 236960 Posts: 9 | Date: 2008-04-02 10:23 thanks joseph i totally understand what you mean thats what ive been
thinking it is but i mean i guess its different for everyone |
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ID: 181346 Posts: 112 | Date: 2008-04-02 13:57 Nicole C.:
thanks joseph i totally understand what you mean thats what ive been
thinking it is but i mean i guess its different for everyone
true.
model should represent itself here on a media like images fully, clearly, big
and with nothing hidden.
we are not allowed to make mestakes, even if we are forced to do some - with bad
or retushed images of models for example.. |
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ID: 181346 Posts: 112 | Date: 2008-04-02 23:34 maybe but just maybe..
anyway our job is to search for some future faces so more things showed - the
merrier!
unfortently 5 images at bronze account (i cant expect higherone from models) can
hardly satisfy anyone. |
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ID: 223398 Posts: 538 | Date: 2008-04-03 01:33 i agree with joseph but i think that if you have only 5 pics in bronze account
don t fill it up with the same poses picture 2 and 3 are nearly the same and
your edited pics are really nice but agencies won t be able to see your face,
try and get better photograps they don t have to be proffesionalKimberley |
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 ID: 237772 Posts: 111 | Date: 2008-04-09 11:32 A lot of good info in here. Thanx |
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1741 | Date: 2008-04-09 15:32 We are in a strange era. Modeling and representation as an industry continues to
grow and change.
One thing has always remained constant: A model has to be an actor. In many
cases, a better actor than on film and video.
Do a simple test so that you can follow my example.
Pop a DVD into your player. Now fast forward. At some random point, stop the
fast forward by pressing the pause button. Look at the expressions, attitude and
look of the people on the screen. There is a high probability that you will not
find the stop motion image of the actors very attractive. Frozen in time,
expressions and emotions of a motion picture are rarely accurately portrayed and
interpreted.
A photographic model takes all the action, emotion, tension and storyline of an
event and enables us to capture this in one single frame. A picture is worth a
thousand words.
Perhaps these words of the song "If"[/] by the musical group [i]"Bread"
should be engraved in every model's mind:
[i]If a pictures paints a thousand words,
Then why can't I paint you?
The words will never show the you I've come to know."[/i]
While modeling have been around for thousands of years perhaps the most poignant
roots of modern modeling can be found in the Victorian age. Coupled with the
Renaisance era, this age saw a blossoming of artistic interpretation that
challenged modern societies acceptance of art and established the commercial
role of the model. Throughout these eras, however, modeling was looked upon as a
distasteful and immoral profession and often relegated to the dregs of society.
Portraits and human representation were supposed to be the providence of the
wealthy or royalty and subject solely to commissions that portrayed the subject
in a positive light. Realistic portrayals of life and the specific
interpretation of the human body bothered a lot of people, but it was the root
of modern model representation and the blossoming of an expanded role for
models.
Of course, the re-invention of photography (the Chinese did it first over 5,000
years ago) and the invention of methods of acid engraving lead blocks for
printing presses meant that models could move out of the painters studio and
begin full time professions. Model agencies were born.
At this time we are still in the 1800's.
Despite other technological improvements, all of which we use today, methods of
recruiting and using models saw no real leap in innovation and change until now.
For 150 years, how models were recruited and hired and the needs that clients
had for them remained virtually the same.
And then came the internet.
What we are seeing today is the single most fundamental and important shift in
modeling in hundreds of years. And no one knows where it is going.
What is the role and future of the internet based model? Can it be a full time
profession? Can people make a living at it? And where will this lead us in the
realm of creativity and the invention of new roles for models?
There are a million dreams of internet modeling success out there and no real
working model to achieve that success yet. We are the pioneers.
Historically, where ever pioneers go there are environmental challenges to be
met and overcome. The internet is a new land and unfortunately, the scam artists
got here first. The scammers have eroded the base of openness and trust, the
result being that the evolution of the internet model has slowed
significantly.
And this is unfortunate.
Superstardom is rare, no matter what profession one is in. Most people
compromise their dreams of superstardom in exchange for the more realistic view
of applying their dreams to a sustaining career. Most internet models, in my
view, should be looking to a sustainable income in modeling rather than seeking
the huge pay day.
This means establishing a trusted networking system among your peers.
The advent of internet communications between scouts, agencies and photographers
coincides with a major revolution in how photography is done and, as a result,
has created a glut of photographers and the destruction of the paying commercial
market for traditional professional photographers. Photographers, too, have
entered a no-man's land.
Presently, most professional photographers are making their daily bread on
portfolio sessions and not from commercial clients. (These include both the
corporate buyer and the family buyer looking for photos of their kids.) In other
words, today's paying market for photographers is the aspiring model.
Yet many of these same photographers will pay for a model that can help them do
outstanding work to attract high value commercial clients. Agents too are
looking for the model that will stand out in a crowd of tens of millions of
models posting portfolios just like these here on this site.
Is it all about the picture? Yes.
Is it all about the professional quality of the picture?
NO!
It is all about a picture of you showing that you have
something that I can make money on. It is about your picture being able to
attract me at the exact right time. It is about your picture convincing me that
there is a market for you. It is about your picture having soul, having life and
having the ability to paint one thousand money making words.
Your picture on the internet is your one and only tool for convincing the world
to invest in you.
If it were not all about the picture, you could write me an email from a blank
profile and get me to hire you. Now, we all know that that is not going to
happen.
The quality of your picture shows your experience. A crisp, clear picture of you
shows us what we have to work with. Most companies on this planet cannot afford
the likes of Tyra Banks. This means that all of the rest of the companies do
have an interest in finding affordable and reliable models to represent their
products. Your picture is how you approach these companies, and the agencies
that represent these companies, without having to move to New York, Los Angeles,
London, Milan, France, etc.
Your picture is your resume to the world. The internet is the telephone number
through which prospective employers contact you for job interviews. The trust
aspect of internet interactions has to be addressed in some way, but I can see a
future in which sustainable modeling and contracts will occur within the
confines of the internet.
Your picture is what will determine whether or not you are part of this future. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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