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Carib Goodies
Carib Goodies
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Date: 2008-04-29 00:07
What do you think...did Vanity Fair go too far? While implied nude images of a minor are legal in the U.S. if not sexually exploitive, is there a moral imperative that says even an implied image of a 15 year old topless is wrong?

On TV they stated that her parents were present and agreed to the shoot. Did the parents exercise good judgment in agreeing to the shoot or should the parents be commended for accompanying their child to the shoot?

Is this a publicity stunt designed to boost awareness of Miley and, if so, should there be rules on how far a child star can go to promote herself?

What are your opinions?

I would like to hear both the adult perspective and the teen perspective.



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Kim S.
Kim S.
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Date: 2008-04-29 00:36
I haven t heard of this but I had watch her disney channel series, i t hink if you re underage no topless pics should be taken.
Kimberley :)

Vylune P.
Vylune P.
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Date: 2008-04-29 03:03
i've noticed the buzz online. i don't see anything wrong with the picture for vanity fair, it's not even sexy. i don't think someone can find that photo attractive in a sexual way if you know what i mean.

on the other hand, if parents of a teen star take this as great PR for their daughter, i'm not so sure if they are good parents.

Carib Goodies
Carib Goodies
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Date: 2008-04-29 14:20
I tend to agree with you, Vylune. The images are need even racy, much less sexual. A teen in a bathing suit shows more.

You had Flipper, the TV show with Jessica Alba at 14 prancing about for half the show in a bikini. No problem.

Miley has been photographed before in a bikini. Her Myspace images show more than the Vanity Fair shoot. So, what is the big deal?

I think the 'scandal' has been engineered as a publicity stunt.
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Rheshawnique Lauderdale
Rheshawnique Lauderdale
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Date: 2008-04-29 14:26
What makes it worse if someone made a uncensored photo of her so it's probably not much of a big deal if nothing is there for the viewing and what's the big deal about it anyway other celebs did things worse than that.

Steve Heitman
Steve Heitman
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Date: 2008-04-29 20:24
she did not show more than a prom dress would so how do you feel about girl going to the prom dressed that way?

Alan Patrick
Alan Patrick
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Date: 2008-04-30 03:01
I think it was a poor decision on her parents part.They must have know there was going to be a backlash.

Her father knows how the media operate and her agent must take some of the responsibility too for advising her to do it.

Apparently she is one of the most bankable up and rising young stars in the us at the moment.

Kim S.
Kim S.
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Date: 2008-04-30 05:39
I haven t seen the photos where can i see them?
Kimberley :)

Carib Goodies
Carib Goodies
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Date: 2008-04-30 21:47
Kim S.:

I haven t seen the photos where can i see them?


ExtraTv.com has articles on the matter.



Alan Patrick:

I think it was a poor decision on her parents part.They must have know there was going to be a backlash.

Her father knows how the media operate and her agent must take some of the responsibility too for advising her to do it.

Apparently she is one of the most bankable up and rising young stars in the us at the moment.


Disney is probably the most experienced and successful marketer on the planet. They do not make mistakes like this. Miley is a very bankable product with some estimates placing her worth to Disney at over a billion dollars. It would be a mistake for any of us to assume that there is a moment in her life or an action that she takes that is not a product of a marketing and promotion strategy. A good manager shapes and molds a person into becoming a celebrity. It does not occur by accident and actions of celebrities tend to be choreographed. Even to Miley's Myspace pages and the previous scandal involving it I have to believe was arranged. No manager is going to let a billion dollar personality, especially a teenager, write what they want on a blog.

It can also be argued that Disney sells more sex than any other company on the planet. Look who their major audience is...the tween generation. Their major market is entering or experiencing the most tumultuous time of their lives. Bodily changes, raging hormones, mental stress, etc. If you review Disney programing with a jaundiced eye you will find it arguably brimming with sexual innuendo.

Media in the 1950's invented the clean cut, all American kid which is basically a fantasy. Miley was built and designed for kids as part of that fantasy. Now Disney needs to break for a larger, older audience. How many kids read Vanity Fair? Heck, Kim, a 15 year old, does not know where to look for Vanity Fair articles. That campaign was designed to pull adult interest.

Disney and Vanity Fair are in safe territory. There is a long precedent in the film and print media of exposing minors. The current scandal with Miley is almost laughable considering that Brooke Shields was filmed nude and topless, full frontal in a love scene, a voyeur scene, a swimming scene and a bathing scene in Blue Lagoon when she was the same age Miley is now. When she was 12 she played a child prostitute in a movie. When she was 10 she was photographed fully nude and the pictures later displayed in Manhattan's American Fine Arts Gallery. She sued to block the display and lost. Admittedly 1976, 1978 and 1980 was a different day and age regarding openness of sexuality, but the precedent remains. (I use Brooke Shields as an example only because she may be more familiar to young people's memory, not because she is the only teen to expose herself. Names like Annette Funicello (another Disney prodigy) and her romps in the 1960's as a teenager probably will not register in the minds of today's teens.

I believe that the main concern should be that the world and the industry today should be trying to get away from the sexual openness and acceptability of the past. Nudity and implied nudity of minors in print and film is not on its face illegal but I believe that it should be. A movie can easily and accurately portray love scenes between tweeners without showing skin or being sexually explicit. It just takes a little creativity.

The direction that I believe that should be taken in the aftermath of the Miley affair is that the industry needs to self regulate itself and establish its own standards regarding how flesh is depicted on minors. There will be extreme difficulty in forming such rules especially since minors walk around in g-strings and pasties on beaches and courts recently upheld the video taping for profit of drunk tweeners on a beach. It is a difficult zone where any laws, rules and regulations have to balance free speech, free expression and the constitutional right of any American to walk about town without clothing.

Yes, a debate should rage regarding this issue. Miley may or may not have gone too far in the shoot but the general issue goes beyond her Vanity Fair shoot. The issue goes to where we want our children's morals to be and how fast we want them to grow up.
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Kim S.
Kim S.
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Date: 2008-04-30 13:11
I just so the pic i don t think it s bad for her she really isn t showing anything so ..
Kimberley :)

Carib Goodies
Carib Goodies
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Date: 2008-04-30 21:47
Kim S.:

I just so the pic i don t think it s bad for her she really isn t showing anything so ..


No, she isn't, is she. Really makes one think that all the fuss is manufactured, huh?
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Kim S.
Kim S.
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Date: 2008-05-01 14:02
yes i agree it is manufactured that fuss is n t required. i think i might show off more than she does when i go to a party :doh:
Kimberley :)

Carib Goodies
Carib Goodies
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Date: 2008-05-01 14:16
Kim S.:

yes i agree it is manufactured that fuss is n t required. i think i might show off more than she does when i go to a party :doh:


Uh...that would be hard to imagine. Have you seen her Myspace page?
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Kim S.
Kim S.
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Date: 2008-05-01 14:51
no i don t use my space much
Kimberley :)

Carib Goodies
Carib Goodies
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Date: 2008-05-01 17:25
Kim S.:

no i don t use my space much



Me neither. I actually hate it with all those miles long pages that take forever to load a bunch of nonsense. But I have to keep up with what is going on around the world so I have an account.

If you see the photos she had on Myspace (they were taken down after the fuss about them a few months back) you would really have to wonder why the Vanity Fair hubbub.

Her Myspace stuff was shirt lifted images, bikini shots, etc. all done self portrait in a bed room...exactly the kind of dark, blurry, racy shots Charles and I constantly rant against being part of model portfolios.

Yet I know that that was all designed to make her the image of the typical, average teenager. What exactly is typical, though, about a tweener who makes millions of dollars a year. You just know that that is not her bedroom. And despite the typical tweener look of the shots, them there were professionally choreographed and arranged.

But this is the world we are in...the world every model here wants to be in...where everything is designed to attract and keep a market of consumers. Fantasy sells.
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Cheri D. Clark aka Frenchi
Cheri D. Clark aka Frenchi
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Date: 2008-05-01 22:06
I don't think the shots were too much of a big deal. But, I personally would not even chance throwing away my career like that. But Brittney did and lot of others before her. They just throw it all away on the sex stuff. If Disney hired me... I wouldn't blow it like that.

So---- Move over Miley-- Cheri's coming to town! LOL

Carib Goodies
Carib Goodies
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Date: 2008-05-01 23:22
Cheri D. Clark:

I don't think the shots were too much of a big deal. But, I personally would not even chance throwing away my career like that. But Brittney did and lot of others before her. They just throw it all away on the sex stuff. If Disney hired me... I wouldn't blow it like that.


Are you certain? For one...Miley didn't blow it with Disney. The do not intend to release her.

Second: If you had a multi million dollar contract to protect and also had the opportunity to make it even bigger, perhaps your perspective would change a little. The people who have managed you into a multi million dollar commodity want to protect your growth as a money maker, move you into more markets before you fade from memory. Your fan base of tweens and teens is getting older, becoming adults. Your career has to grow with them or it dies. Your managers require you to push the boundaries just a little, keep those new adults interested in you. Give them a tease. Get them to tune in again to one of your shows, boost your Nielson ratings, increase your recognizability, up charge your appearance fees.

She has a movie due out in 2009. I believe more people know about it now than before. Movies are the biggest pay days.

You want to get noticed today, you have to kick over the cooking pot.

If Disney or Vanity Fair knocked on any model's door right now asking them to shoot tastefully in a sheet....I gander that there would be very few, if any, who would turn them down.
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Olivia McKenzie
Olivia McKenzie
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Date: 2008-05-02 02:09
x . . As a teenager, someone who is infact, Miley Cyrus's age I think this scandal is pretty much escalating on account of the fact that once that picture was shown in Vanity Fair, people began digging for more pictures of the slightest exposure, so news of her goofing around with friends, or taking photos of herself in a bikini were put into focus . . x

x . . It's sad because many teens have fun with friends & take photos of themselves without ANY of the hype that celebrities get, Miley is just experiencing what more or less every teenager goes through at some point . . x

x . .That being said, the fact that she IS a role-model for the youth of today does put what she does into harsh perspective, because of the fact that Miley is a young star, being "normal" doesn't really work without extreme involvement with the media . . x

x . . All in all it's a hard one too call, basically I think everyone should just leave it, I mean gosh there are news bulletins about it and everything!!..I'm pretty sure with all the publicity, Miley will know whether she's done the wrong thing or the right thing..& after all, she's the only one who can choose do keep going the way she is or not . . x
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Kim S.
Kim S.
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Date: 2008-05-02 10:13
oh i saw her my space pics
Kimberley :)

Photography by Mark
Photography by Mark
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Date: 2008-05-02 14:47
I think that these photographs, though innocent in nature, were used for an indecent indecent purpose. I believe that Vanity Fair used very poor judgement. I also believe that such publications as Vanity Fair should stop exploiting talented people for the sake of money. They are becoming a high priced National Enquirer.

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