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Hello to everyone
Guys, i need your advice. My portfolio is continuously rejected just because i don't fit in the format of the country's magazines, as they say. PLEASE, check up my portfolio! WHAT COUNTRY AM I SUITABLE FOR?

Where are you based currently? Attached to any agency?

What's your focus in modeling? Is it fashion, editorials/advertorials, runways, commercial, acting etc?

You probably need to develop your folio to match your aspiration in your area of interests.

your stats semm right to me
what are the needs in ukraine?
Kimberley :)

Valentina Papariga:

Hello to everyone
Guys, i need your advice. My portfolio is continuously rejected just because i don't fit in the format of the country's magazines, as they say. PLEASE, check up my portfolio! WHAT COUNTRY AM I SUITABLE FOR?


lol :D

well you got it all wrong Valentina. It has nothing to do with your country, but style of your portfolio - and of you.

Your images - and your face i must admin - are very "hard/dark/scary" for open public media (so you dont fit there). Publishing those kind of images in open/country magazines can occur in significant loss of sale, bad feedback from readers and public and so on. Very hard to explain. It is just a matter of editorial politics in magazines nothing else.

You should find some cult magazines for your images and for much specific public where your revealed body/aggression will be forthcoming - whats not the case in country/family magazines - so called "nice" papers shortly.

Nothing to be bothered about anyway. Some faces/style cannot fit in cult magazines and otherwise so i wouldnt worry about that.

Just keep asking around. If you want to avoid that feedback search for media with much darker-naughtier editorial politics.

btw I would use this opportunity to aware models (although I doubt that that will happen lol) how much portfolio really is important for model's launch in publishing industry - since we/publishers sell photos not actually models "live" services on runway like e.g. fashion. what i wanna say is that in this case we dont care much how model looks in front of our eyes but what is "saying" to us via images exclusivly.

while we want to look great on photos, what is actually important is what those photos "says" to audience. model is just an element like every other detail arround on the image like simple lamp for example which "triggers" something in eyes of public. joy, passion, smile, pain, sarrow.. whatever.

publishing is very important to get noticed around and its priceless, essential for everyone who wants to achieve something. firstly you will probably work with professionals and gain very important experience, and comments of audience. and impressive comments about you are actually the key of your success - not just simple online expectations with 2-3 images far away from reality.

if public loves you, every agency and scout will feel the same about you so dont be lazy to try to impress your watchers with something.

i would recommend attractive models not to searh for agencies like crazy but to konck on some respective publisher's doors with a simple request that you just want to be taken and published. if editor decide to do it - maybe there is a chance for exposure.

ps: good editor will never shoot bad model for any money in return, but it will publish absolute amateur for free if he encounters possible exposure. worth of trying.

I see. But, as they told me, it was because of my bust size. In my country the "wanted" models are those who have large breasts. Unfortunately, i'm not the owner of big bust. So ........ this was the only question.

Valentina Papariga:

But, as they told me, it was because of my bust size. In my country the "wanted" models are those who have large breasts.


Really? Funny. To what magazines you sent your inquiries if its not a secret?

Sorry Valentina but never heard for "big bust only" countries so far. Sounds totaly idiotic if you ask me.

I agree joseph and many models have small bust size
Kimberley :)

Definitely, not a secret. To "Maxim", "VIP", "Ego", "Vogue". Actually, it was the photographer who took the photos to these agencies. Maybe, i shouldn't believe the photographer ...... but i have a feeling that i've done some wrong steps, and get it all wrong, as you put it. In fact, i didn't want to say that mine is a "big bust only" country"; but that was my first step, and it was a failure. Still, i don't understand why they didn't tell me the truth, if the bust size wasn't the only problem.
Still, thank you. It was a good lesson.

Привет, Валя! Пишу на русском, надеюсь нормально:)
Посмотрела фотки, могу сказать честно почему тебе говорят не формат.
Дело не в размере груди, честно говоря. И грудь у тебя ничего такая, скажу:)
По первых длина волос и цвет, сразу видно, что крашенные, причем короткие. С такими волосами путь в азию и европу для тебя закрыт! а многие агентства снг посылают именно туда.
Тебе с такой прической путь в америку или Лондон! Но туда чтобы попасть нужно иметь хороший бук, и не старше 16 желательно.
Насчет фоток, ну стремные фотки, художественные они, для портфолио не годятся
Перекрась волосы в более натуральный и попробуй хотя бы нарастить до плеч, тогда можно попробовать в азию хотя бы!
И насчет фото, попробуй сделать что-нибудь попроще, чтобы лицо было видно и поменьше мейка.
надеюсб поможет, если что пиши!

Спасибо :) если честно, не думала, что волосы имеут такое значение (их ведь всегда можно перекрасить и отростить). Жаль, конечно, что мне сделали такие фотографии:(. Странно только одно - ведь фотограф тоже проиграл на этом, о мог выиграть. Разве он этого не видел?

Валюш! Я тоже так про волосы думала, пока не согласилась по глупости работать на шоу для шварцкопа, мне мои длинные блондинистые волосы искромсали до твоего состояния! Работы не было месяц! И это в Москве,насчет заграницы менеджер сказал что. если нарастить и перекрасить!
Насчет фотографов, все таки художественное фото и портфолио разные вещи, многие просто не умеют снимать моделей или делают так как хотят они, но в моделлинге это не прокатывает!
Нарасти до плеч, и фото попроще сделай и пройдись по киевским агентствам, у вас там есть вроде неплохие: я думаю больше так не скажут!
Насчет размера бюста, стандартная отмазка, некоторым ведь лень объяснять, реальные причины то

Orsiris Pte Ltd:

Where are you based currently? Attached to any agency?

What's your focus in modeling? Is it fashion, editorials/advertorials, runways, commercial, acting etc?

You probably need to develop your folio to match your aspiration in your area of interests.


These are good points for Valentina, yes because it could be that she has been approaching the wrong type of places by the mention of their looking for Larger Busted Models!

As stated by Orsiris, you need to decide on direction and target the right sources for your chosen work aims!

Valentina Papariga:

Спасибо :) если честно, не думала, что волосы имеут такое значение (их ведь всегда можно перекрасить и отростить). Жаль, конечно, что мне сделали такие фотографии:(. Странно только одно - ведь фотограф тоже проиграл на этом, о мог выиграть. Разве он этого не видел?



Валентина Я думаю, если вы приближаетесь право учреждениям и предложения, то ваш бюст размер не должен иметь значение. Только те места, желающие найти провокационные моделей будет просить о подобных вещах. Мода моделирования должны быть открыты для вашего вида.

Алена упоминает ваши волосы, но волосы могут быть изменены в соответствии с требованиями конкретной работе.

Удачи.

Hello, Alex Alexander! U are wellcome. U translated my russian,right?
I mean that impossible to work with short hairs anywhere, if u aspiring model, not famous.
Because bookers and clients prefer clean look and image, so thye can change it!
Difficult to change, if it already done.
:lips:

Alena N:

Hello, Alex Alexander! U are wellcome. U translated my russian,right?
I mean that impossible to work with short hairs anywhere, if u aspiring model, not famous.
Because bookers and clients prefer clean look and image, so thye can change it!
Difficult to change, if it already done.
:lips:



Oh hiya Alena! Yes my translation to Russian was probably poor though yes? :(

I see your point on the short hair as you say you cannot alter what is not there!
So I imagine that Russian/Eastern european Agencies and work availability still concentrates on more traditional feminine images with longer hair to mould yes?

Valentina Papariga:

Definitely, not a secret. To "Maxim", "VIP", "Ego", "Vogue". Actually, it was the photographer who took the photos to these agencies. ..


well next time tell him if he has a small dick he cant take pictures of you.

maybe that way he will get much deeper momento about global country standards. ewww idiotic story lol

ps: any popular model with big breasts anyway in the world lol?! ockay Pam Andreson have silicons so you cant count her :P

Valentina Papariga:

Definitely, not a secret. To "Maxim", "VIP", "Ego", "Vogue". Actually, it was the photographer who took the photos to these agencies. Maybe, i shouldn't believe the photographer ...... but i have a feeling that i've done some wrong steps, and get it all wrong, as you put it. In fact, i didn't want to say that mine is a "big bust only" country"; but that was my first step, and it was a failure. Still, i don't understand why they didn't tell me the truth, if the bust size wasn't the only problem.
Still, thank you. It was a good lesson.



Beep........beep.......beep...beep...beep beep beep beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!!!!!!

Oh! :doh: Let me turn down the sound on my BS meter. Probably disturbing the neighbors and all.

There, sound all turned down.

Hmmmm. Now I can smell the BS. Let me go get a clothes pin and some air freshener.

So.....let me get this straight....your "photographer" submitted to "Maxim", "VIP", "Ego", and "Vogue". These magazines (they are not agencies as your post suggests) actually took the time to each tell the photographer (who more than likely submitted them unsolicited, if he did) why they rejected the photos.

Cough cough ahem ummm....COUGH!!!!

Ah...got that out of my system.

Now, you know...I believe this is the very first time in my long career that I have seen "Vogue" in the same sentence as "Maxim", "VIP", and "Ego". :endecided: Yeah...that is sort of like three guys in hoodies at a back tie event.

Interestingly enough, I was going to suggest to you before reading the post quoted above that your facial structure, hair color and figure are more suited to the luxury market...the over 40 affluent crowd who are thinking spenders rather than spontaneous spenders. The people who are still a major part of the Vogue magazine crowd.

Now, the first three mags have once in a while been known to accept unsolicited images. But those mags are geared towards guys who want to whack off but not get caught with porn. They are in the glamor field and recieve so much unsolicited images that the bulk of them are seen only by an army of minimum wage mail room clerks whose sole skill set in life is to be able to open 60 envelopes a minute without paper cuts. There is a 99% chance that your images, if submitted, were never seen by an editor.

Vogue, I won't say anything about except this: If that tog had walk in access to Vogue he would not have gone there with images of someone they would take no interest in because of "breast size". Vogue is not a pin-up magazine.

You know...I have a book with submission guidelines for over 20,000 magazines. Let me get back to you after I check the index to see if they have cross referenced publications with "minimum breast size submission guidelines".

You know...Madonna did Playboy with A cups and natural brown hair way before she was famous. Perhaps that was done before the advent of the eco-conscious concept of 'catch and release'. "Nah...this breast is too small, throw it back, maybe it will be larger next season."

Yes, there are girlie mags that have breast size, shape, aureole size, nipple size, width, and length, coloration, perky factor, fatty tissue location, etc. guidelines. For real, yes. (Sorry Joseph and Kim, but it is true.) Heck, Playboy even had a belly button minimum/maximum distance from crotch rule. If a girl looked good enough or was popular enough, Playboy would airbrush, retouch and move their belly button into optimum eye candy position.


Now, Valentina...if you are looking to be signed by a big time agency...why are you aiming for slots in the 'sticky pages' rags?

And do not let one fake arse photographer break your confidence in yourself and your desire to find proper agencies, hump until you get a sit down meet, and let them tell you to your face what they are looking for and why they cannot use you. And remember...every single agency is different. They focus on different clientèle, have their own model type(s) that they specialize in training and promoting, and have their own rules on how they accept talent to promote. It ain't over until the fat lady sings.


In the meantime, please read this article: WHAT TO DO IF MODELING AGENCIES TURN YOU DOWN


PS: Alena's comments, albeit in Russian, are dead on accurate and something I was going to comment to you about, but she beat me to it.
:cantlook: Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should :cool:

Carib Goodies:

[Valentina Papariga: ...]


Beep........beep.......beep...beep...beep beep beep beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!!!!!!

Oh! :doh: Let me turn down the sound on my BS meter. Probably disturbing the neighbors and all.

There, sound all turned down.

Hmmmm. Now I can smell the BS. Let me go get a clothes pin and some air freshener.

So.....let me get this straight....your "photographer" submitted to "Maxim", "VIP", "Ego", and "Vogue". These magazines (they are not agencies as your post suggests) actually took the time to each tell the photographer (who more than likely submitted them unsolicited, if he did) why they rejected the photos.

Cough cough ahem ummm....COUGH!!!!

Ah...got that out of my system.

Now, you know...I believe this is the very first time in my long career that I have seen "Vogue" in the same sentence as "Maxim", "VIP", and "Ego". :endecided: Yeah...that is sort of like three guys in hoodies at a back tie event.

Interestingly enough, I was going to suggest to you before reading the post quoted above that your facial structure, hair color and figure are more suited to the luxury market...the over 40 affluent crowd who are thinking spenders rather than spontaneous spenders. The people who are still a major part of the Vogue magazine crowd.

Now, the first three mags have once in a while been known to accept unsolicited images. But those mags are geared towards guys who want to whack off but not get caught with porn. They are in the glamor field and recieve so much unsolicited images that the bulk of them are seen only by an army of minimum wage mail room clerks whose sole skill set in life is to be able to open 60 envelopes a minute without paper cuts. There is a 99% chance that your images, if submitted, were never seen by an editor.

Vogue, I won't say anything about except this: If that tog had walk in access to Vogue he would not have gone there with images of someone they would take no interest in because of "breast size". Vogue is not a pin-up magazine.

You know...I have a book with submission guidelines for over 20,000 magazines. Let me get back to you after I check the index to see if they have cross referenced publications with "minimum breast size submission guidelines".

You know...Madonna did Playboy with A cups and natural brown hair way before she was famous. Perhaps that was done before the advent of the eco-conscious concept of 'catch and release'. "Nah...this breast is too small, throw it back, maybe it will be larger next season."

Yes, there are girlie mags that have breast size, shape, aureole size, nipple size, width, and length, coloration, perky factor, fatty tissue location, etc. guidelines. For real, yes. (Sorry Joseph and Kim, but it is true.) Heck, Playboy even had a belly button minimum/maximum distance from crotch rule. If a girl looked good enough or was popular enough, Playboy would airbrush, retouch and move their belly button into optimum eye candy position.


Now, Valentina...if you are looking to be signed by a big time agency...why are you aiming for slots in the 'sticky pages' rags?

And do not let one fake arse photographer break your confidence in yourself and your desire to find proper agencies, hump until you get a sit down meet, and let them tell you to your face what they are looking for and why they cannot use you. And remember...every single agency is different. They focus on different clientèle, have their own model type(s) that they specialize in training and promoting, and have their own rules on how they accept talent to promote. It ain't over until the fat lady sings.


In the meantime, please read this article: WHAT TO DO IF MODELING AGENCIES TURN YOU DOWN


PS: Alena's comments, albeit in Russian, are dead on accurate and something I was going to comment to you about, but she beat me to it.



Hey you smelt that too from such a distance? Must be good stuff :D

Yep we got some variety of questions here un answered? From many genuine reply posters! I have about twenty or so messages from friends being offered work etc from fake GQ Magazine and similar scams, so the mention of major companies in a vague way will always provoke such responses as this ans send warning bells to me over friends!

Thank you, everybody! Well ... , in fact, i got a good experience.

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