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If you wish to photograph an underage model, any problem getting a parent to be present? I have been cautioned to insist on this, covers model and myself as well.

I will be having a tfp soon and I m 15 years old. The only thing the photographer said was that it'll be a casual one so no bikinis or swimwear. I will ask him though when we set up the date if I can bring someone with me. :thumbup:

Ralph Zeiders:

If you wish to photograph an underage model, any problem getting a parent to be present? I have been cautioned to insist on this, covers model and myself as well.



A mine field subject and one that you would be best to be over cautious over even at the risk of losing work if you do not get the right consents!

Firstly underage Models should be adressed via their Parents/Guardians then if all appears above board any arrangements regarding Photoshoots should safeguard both parties ie Model and Photographer by having an agreement in writing to meet with a suitable adult in attendance to do such photo work!

Never should either party be in a position out of that sittuation where they feel exposed away from that impartial other adult onlooker! It is unfortunate that we have to think in this way, yet it is common sense and good morals to adhere to such things as it is a safety net should anything suspect be suggested occur or be suggested!

Safety issues are paramount particularly for minors and Parents to keep in mind but likewise Photographers and agents etc should be equally as wary!

I would never let Cheri' do a shoot without being there. But, I am also a very over protective mother I guess..

-Sheryl

Kim,Sheryl and Alex, Thanks so much for your comments. There is so much to learn. I at first wanted to contact only models 18+, since age not listed, I have made contact with some models under 18. One referred me to her mother. I am fine doing that, since I am starting out in this business and feel honesty and the general welfare of the model should be considered. We live in a sick society that makes "an ounce of prevention worth a pound of cure!"
** Kim **, No way you are 15. I need to be a better judge of age. Contacted you before and pics portray you as more mature.

Actuall I have only just clicked that this is really in the wrong topic area! Music and movies! I think you would have had more response within the Genreal Modelling Topics or Photographers even, being more relevant!

Thanks again Alex! There is more to this site than meets the eye.

Ralph Zeiders:

Thanks again Alex! There is more to this site than meets the eye.


Sounds interesting please enlightened me? Me and my family are completely
open minded and have great awareness, anything new and noted is all good!

Ralph Zeiders:

** Kim **, No way you are 15. I need to be a better judge of age. Contacted you before and pics portray you as more mature.


I am 15 years old actually, I'll be 16 soon though but I'm not lying about my age, and yes I am mature for my age but I 'm still 16. :endecided:

Alex, "More to this site than meets the eye." This means that the site looks simple but navigating can get you in the wrong place with model contacts, forums, blogs, etc. Like anything else with continual use things will improve. I will say that the majority of people on Jurgita are a cut above most sites where conversation is exchanged by e-mail. I like that. Getting together some pictures to post so looking forward to critique. Have a geat day and as always thank you for your help.

Kimberly, More of a kidding than anything else. I believe most people to be honest. This is one point where I get into trouble. Model looks 18+ but then I find out she is underage. many of you have given pointers in how to deal with underagers. Thank you.
I have been taking mystery out of the picture, by asking age. I think in this country girls mature to women way too fast due to many food/drink products loaded with vitamins and other additives.
Will check net about Malta. I know where it is and some history, but sounds fascinating.

Yeah it is fascinating but not for the modelling world, as there are very few modelling opportunities and many of them you have to pay so :/

Ralph Zeiders:

Alex, "More to this site than meets the eye." This means that the site looks simple but navigating can get you in the wrong place with model contacts, forums, blogs, etc. Like anything else with continual use things will improve. I will say that the majority of people on Jurgita are a cut above most sites where conversation is exchanged by e-mail. I like that. Getting together some pictures to post so looking forward to critique. Have a geat day and as always thank you for your help.



Oh I see your point Ralph, yes it is tricky initially, but once conversant with the forums available it is easy enough, hey I note you have found that out now!

The jurgita forum is far more active than many places and rarely is a topic not responded to here!

Kim S.:

Yeah it is fascinating but not for the modelling world, as there are very few modelling opportunities and many of them you have to pay so :/



It is unfortunate that Malta is not noted more for Modelling! It is a highly popular tourist destination and has great beaches I believe, generally with that combination and the good climate it would be seen as an ideal Modelling Destination, but I guess some Countries have not evolved that way yet.

More's the pity for you Kim as it then offers less opportunities for yourself locally! Is this the same for Models when they reach 18 and over in your Country Kim?

I agree with Cheri: if I had a daughter or son, I most certainly wouldn't let them model without some sort of supervision. Unless, of course, they do what some of the under-18 models do on this site: take pictures of themselves in their room (or friends in some public place) via cell phones or cameras. That I wouldn't mind.

Tim Jones:

I agree with Cheri: if I had a daughter or son, I most certainly wouldn't let them model without some sort of supervision. Unless, of course, they do what some of the under-18 models do on this site: take pictures of themselves in their room (or friends in some public place) via cell phones or cameras. That I wouldn't mind.



Umm Excuse! Can I have a quick re-take on what you just said!

Quote:

Yes you agree with Cheri

But then you say it is ok for them to take photos from their rooms on cellphones or cameras and would not mind that? sorry am I losing the thread here or are you agreeing to teenagers doing as they please photo wise? That is how your reply reads here?

Just being honest!

I think you need to reply with more clarity please!

Casual pictures on a cell phone do not require the same amount of supervision or effort as that of having around adult men / women taking pictures of you. There are dozens of teenage models who do this. It has nothing to with chastity: some younger models to be just like taking pictures of themselves in an instant, not in a booth or building.

However, I am NOT saying it's okay for teenagers to take pictures as they please. I have no idea how you got that. Even if they do that, I STILL think they should get the OK from their parent / legal guardian to set up an account and post their pictures an profile on here.

Does that sound better?

Tim Jones:

Casual pictures on a cell phone do not require the same amount of supervision or effort as that of having around adult men / women taking pictures of you. There are dozens of teenage models who do this. It has nothing to with chastity: some younger models to be just like taking pictures of themselves in an instant, not in a booth or building.

However, I am NOT saying it's okay for teenagers to take pictures as they please. I have no idea how you got that. Even if they do that, I STILL think they should get the OK from their parent / legal guardian to set up an account and post their pictures an profile on here.

Does that sound better?


[b]I knew that was what you meant to say Tim lol! Just think the
Wording needed greater clarity and you did that with style[/b]

Ralph Zeiders:

Kimberly, More of a kidding than anything else. I believe most people to be honest. This is one point where I get into trouble. Model looks 18+ but then I find out she is underage. many of you have given pointers in how to deal with underagers. Thank you.
I have been taking mystery out of the picture, by asking age. I think in this country girls mature to women way too fast due to many food/drink products loaded with vitamins and other additives.
Will check net about Malta. I know where it is and some history, but sounds fascinating.


It is so so difficult for people to advise on the ‘Underage’
Dealing for talents, guidelines can be set but typically teenagers
Will Want to step over the lines and do there own thing, more
Often without the knowledge of their Parents/Guardians,
that reason alone means that it cannot be assumed that a
profile is in actual fact over-seen or even started by an adult.

You mentioned cam-phones, a good example of how a kid
Could take a few pics in a room, put the memory card in
Computer then upload to an easily opened free profile in
Around three minutes, so with that kinda technology it is
Very hard for a parent to keep up.

Some examples from the Pre-Teen area here at jurgita:

http://www.jurgita.com/models-id132989.html
But this is a doctored pic of an 18yo Americas
Next model contestant!

This girl 13 is being photo’d by her friend obviously phone-cam:
http://www.jurgita.com/pictures-id188225.html
Not sure if those are panties or shorts, but it is
bedroom and she is even on mobile while doing shot!

I doubt that this girls mother approved these:
http://www.jurgita.com/models-id232131.html
If in fact it is genuine at all?

So you can see from a quick observation that it can be
A mine-field, hence the reasons for being over-cautious
Mentioned by some here!

Highly advisable to shot underage models with aparent besides , I never shot whitout a relative or agency sent escort.

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