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Sasha Bharwani
Sasha Bharwani
ID: 236900
Posts: 38
Date: 2008-07-06 19:50
Why cant we do that? Apart from being a ploy to get people to upgrade membership, how else is it useful????:endecided:

Giedrius Majauskas
Giedrius Majauskas
ID: 666
Posts: 98
Date: 2008-07-07 01:26
Avoiding spam bots, thats for one.
Avoiding scaming when you are contacted by "agency" or "scout" without any background check.
Making interested in modeling people join site and grow it bigger :)

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Kim S.
Kim S.
ID: 223398
Posts: 527
Date: 2008-07-07 02:18
have you thought of giving your email address to scouts, agencies, photographers....If it's a scam you cannot tell jurgita.com because you don t have any proof. you can contact members by means of messages.
Kimberley :)

Gary Young
Gary Young
ID: 237093
Posts: 1155
Date: 2008-07-07 18:20
Kim S.:

have you thought of giving your email address to scouts, agencies, photographers....If it's a scam you cannot tell jurgita.com because you don t have any proof. you can contact members by means of messages.

And if you have no proof of something... Jurgita admin can't do anything about it because if it's in your private e-mail account it's they your responsability!
The reason is for your protection:thumbup:
Though I've seen messages in my jurgita inbox with something like"e-mail link removed" on them, so people do try to send them!
:cool:

Vylune P.
Vylune P.
ID: 186257
Posts: 274
Date: 2008-07-08 06:18
there are many things that can go wrong if you share your email.

lets say a model meets a scout and they start messaging each other on private emails, if it turns out to be a scam, a model can hardly prove she/he was scammed if the messages are not on jurgita.com. so administrator can't remove the scammer from jurgita.com without a prove and other people can get scammed too.

if someone attacks you with improper offers via jurgita.com messaging you can report the person and he/she gets banned or at least warned against improper behavior. if any member can see your email, anybody can spam you with any type of suggestions and there aren't much things you can do.

there are more examples and they all are at this article at help section.

i understand that many members look for free way to communicate with industry professionals, but i don't think sharing private email addresses can help.

just my thoughts.

Kaylin Mahal
Kaylin Mahal
ID: 235413
Posts: 15
Date: 2008-07-08 08:49
Sasha, there's ways getting around putting your email.... for example... "sasha at yahoo dot com" this should work for you. by the way, I totally have to say here...We should let one decide for themselves as to weather or not if he or she wants to display there email. Do let me add... emails are posted ever day on every site and no matter where you go, there's always going to be corruption in any system. So, to make a long story short, I think it's up to you, if you want to display or not...Totally NOT others to decide for you!... How ever, do be aware of any scams, also be careful with people on jurgita as well... like any system," none is full proof safe", though i'm sure they make every possible effort to do so.

Thank's and have great day! ;)

David Leeworthy
David Leeworthy
ID: 247404
Posts: 151
Date: 2008-07-08 08:39
I agree with Vylune on this. It is for your safety and security...

Kaylin Mahal
Kaylin Mahal
ID: 235413
Posts: 15
Date: 2008-07-08 09:04
Sasha,
Many people feel the same as you... and thats what we call " Freedom" and God give it to us.
It seams other people wants to make decisions for us... as I sad in my last post... scams will happen in or out of Jurgita... and I assure to you, that's a fact.

I certianly think the right direction for all of us here... is to give you advice on how to be aware of the scams... because they will never go away. at the same time dont let them hold you back in life by advertising your email... you go for it girl !

Example: "sasha at yahoo dot com"

Just be aware!

Good luck! :D

Giedrius Majauskas
Giedrius Majauskas
ID: 666
Posts: 98
Date: 2008-07-08 12:46
Kaylin Mahal:

I certianly think the right direction for all of us here... is to give you advice on how to be aware of the scams... because they will never go away. at the same time dont let them hold you back in life by advertising your email... you go for it girl !

Example: ...
Just be aware!



Hi. We provide a service - that is meeting place for models, agencies and modeling professionals. Part of the services (in fact most of it) are free, some are not. There are terms and conditions that you have to follow to be in a site. New options are implemented, some things are changed, but at the moment we do not allow emails in profile description and other places except email field.

Also, I find extremaly rude suggesting breaking the rules of the community whose services you use. We can discuss rules, we can modify account level capabilities when we reach some acceptable for both sides compromise, however we will not tolerate suggestions for other members to cheat, exploit system and so on. Usually we delete profiles that systematically suggest violating the rules of community. Most often it is assumed that this rule is reserved for pervs only, but it can be applied to other people who think that the rules are for "common folk" only.
I must clarify, that administration team is allways open for suggestions, bug reports and discussion. If you have a suggestions about new things we should implement, feel free suggesting them in forum or (if you are shy) in ticket system.
Part of jurgita.com administration team.

Rasa N.
Rasa N.
ID: 166375
Posts: 517
Date: 2008-07-09 00:56
Kaylin Mahal:

Sasha, there's ways getting around putting your email.... for example... "sasha at yahoo dot com" this should work for you. by the way, I totally have to say here...We should let one decide for themselves as to weather or not if he or she wants to display there email. Do let me add... emails are posted ever day on every site and no matter where you go, there's always going to be corruption in any system. So, to make a long story short, I think it's up to you, if you want to display or not...Totally NOT others to decide for you!... How ever, do be aware of any scams, also be careful with people on jurgita as well... like any system," none is full proof safe", though i'm sure they make every possible effort to do so.

Thank's and have great day! ;)


from this post its clear that you do not have a clue of how often administration gets messages "ive been scammed OMG, thats your fault!"
not many people like to think before deciding to display the email or not to do so.
Love to Love

Vylune P.
Vylune P.
ID: 186257
Posts: 274
Date: 2008-07-09 05:07
Rasa N.:

from this post its clear that you do not have a clue of how often administration gets messages "ive been scammed OMG, thats your fault!"
not many people like to think before deciding to display the email or not to do so.


that's a good point. people want to have an option to share their emails, but if something goes wrong they blame the system. if you read older posts of this forum you can find various angry posts regarding many things on the website.

Kaylin Mahal
Kaylin Mahal
ID: 235413
Posts: 15
Date: 2008-07-16 11:54
Rasa N.:

[Kaylin Mahal: ...]

from this post its clear that you do not have a clue of how often administration gets messages "ive been scammed OMG, thats your fault!"
not many people like to think before deciding to display the email or not to do so.


From this post it's very clear that you do not have a clue of what I pointed out to Sasha. quote... "How ever, do be aware of any scams, also be careful with people on jurgita as well... like any system," none is full proof safe", though i'm sure they make every possible effort to do so."

And by the way, thank you very, very much for pointing out here to support what I posted for Sasha... that administration of Jurgita get's messages " ive been scammed OMG, thats your fault"... A very good point to point out to Sasha... That way she will know that she can be equally scammed either way, by posting though Jurgita pay system or go out on her own and use a free site that will allow her to do so.

As for you Sasha... Basically the only advice here," is just be aware" and i'm certain that is all Jurgita can offer you as well... One last thing Sasha. Read the Jurgita policy very carefully before you purchase and you will find that they clearly state they are not held accountable for any fraud or scams between you and other users in their site. meaning they will not be resposible for scams against you, even if you render money to them.

Thank's and have a great day...;)

Kaylin Mahal
Kaylin Mahal
ID: 235413
Posts: 15
Date: 2008-07-16 13:27
Sasha Bharwani:

Why cant we do that? Apart from being a ploy to get people to upgrade membership, how else is it useful????:endecided:


Again Sasha, just be very aware of anyone you do business with, regardless if they are here in this site or anywhere else. you also should do your own back ground check on the people you are dealing with... and dont trust any one to do it for you ,cause you may find out it was not a complete or full check... as for Jurgita... there is know way they will spend that kind money, for a full government back ground check, for you, on some agent living in the South Pacific Islands to protect you.

*BE AWARE
*PERFORM YOUR OWN BACK GROUND CHECK... dont trust anyone to say they do. And if they perform a back ground check, it's usually brief and inexpensive.

Thanks and have a nice day!... :D

Kaylin Mahal
Kaylin Mahal
ID: 235413
Posts: 15
Date: 2008-07-16 13:16
Giedrius Majauskas:

[Kaylin Mahal: ...]

Hi. We provide a service - that is meeting place for models, agencies and modeling professionals. Part of the services (in fact most of it) are free, some are not. There are terms and conditions that you have to follow to be in a site. New options are implemented, some things are changed, but at the moment we do not allow emails in profile description and other places except email field.

Also, I find extremaly rude suggesting breaking the rules of the community whose services you use. We can discuss rules, we can modify account level capabilities when we reach some acceptable for both sides compromise, however we will not tolerate suggestions for other members to cheat, exploit system and so on. Usually we delete profiles that systematically suggest violating the rules of community. Most often it is assumed that this rule is reserved for pervs only, but it can be applied to other people who think that the rules are for "common folk" only.
I must clarify, that administration team is allways open for suggestions, bug reports and discussion. If you have a suggestions about new things we should implement, feel free suggesting them in forum or (if you are shy) in ticket system.


Hi, I'm sure you do find it rudd, because your not making any money off someone's free email posting... and besides there has been no rule violation here. as you stated... you do not allow email postings in profile discriptions and further more your system will automatically kick them out if entered. So, you explain to me how one can violate that. Ryt!

Giedrius... you have good day man! :thumbup:

Gary Young
Gary Young
ID: 237093
Posts: 1155
Date: 2008-07-16 13:28
The system does remove e-mail links automatically if you try to post them in forum:thumbup:
That's to stop scam & fraud & also to prevent other members that are not so cautious from getting into situations they can't get out of, including fraud & scams:thumbup:
it's for your own protection:thumbup:
:cool:

Gary Young
Gary Young
ID: 237093
Posts: 1155
Date: 2008-07-16 13:38
Rasa N.:

[Kaylin Mahal: ...]

from this post its clear that you do not have a clue of how often administration gets messages "ive been scammed OMG, thats your fault!"
not many people like to think before deciding to display the email or not to do so.

I've seen e-mail links like name at rambler dot ru and me at yahoo dot com
in forum posts before on numerous occasions, I don't respond to them because they are usually some kind of scam or fraud of some kind:thumbup:
:cool:

Giedrius Majauskas
Giedrius Majauskas
ID: 666
Posts: 98
Date: 2008-07-16 14:02
Kaylin Mahal:

[Giedrius Majauskas: ...]

Hi, I'm sure you do find it rudd, because your not making any money off someone's free email posting... and besides there has been no rule violation here. as you stated... you do not allow email postings in profile discriptions and further more your system will automatically kick them out if entered. So, you explain to me how one can violate that. Ryt!

Giedrius... you have good day man! :thumbup:

This has nothing to do with making money. This is related to common sense of respect. I would see the same if one would promote ways to break rules in any other website as well, even ones that do not seek profits. If you dont understand what I am talking about, then i am sorry.
Part of jurgita.com administration team.

Kaylin Mahal
Kaylin Mahal
ID: 235413
Posts: 15
Date: 2008-07-17 03:16
Gary Young:

The system does remove e-mail links automatically if you try to post them in forum:thumbup:
That's to stop scam & fraud & also to prevent other members that are not so cautious from getting into situations they can't get out of, including fraud & scams:thumbup:
it's for your own protection:thumbup:


Sorry to say Gary... the email links are removed or kicked for one soul purpose only. meaning if a modle wants to place their email to be advertised, it can happen, and vise versa, if agents want to advertise themselves to modles, they to have to pay in order to contact each other. this is bottom line, MONEY. common sense will tell you why this site is here, again, to make money, and this is accomplished through pay advertisement of one's self or groups, companies etc...

Gary, I would like to say here... you mentioned " TO STOP SCAM & FRAUD "... Really man!... It seems you have'nt any knowlegde of past post here about members complaining of other members SCAM & FRAUD problems. It's a misconception here if one thinks he can buy into Jugitas, Pay per advrtisement sytem and not take a chance of being scammed or frauded upon. Again regardless of being on the insde of the system or outside on your own. Either way, scams WILL happen... And that's a garranteed statement.
By the way Gary... when you figure out a way to stop Scams and Fraud here on Jurgita or any other place. Please do email me back, as to how you accomplished that, and I will certianly nominate you for NOBEL contestant.

As for the administrators here, I do realize you dont want to here this type of information, especially when it is posted for viewers that are not upgraded yet, but this type of communication is needed up front, so the new member will have knowlegde of the posibility of scams and fraud happening to them. In turn, they will have no reason to blame Jurgita for it happening to ones self. Amen!

Everyone here have godly bless day!... :saint:

Kaylin Mahal
Kaylin Mahal
ID: 235413
Posts: 15
Date: 2008-07-17 05:04
Giedrius Majauskas:

[Kaylin Mahal: ...]
This has nothing to do with making money. This is related to common sense of respect. I would see the same if one would promote ways to break rules in any other website as well, even ones that do not seek profits. If you dont understand what I am talking about, then i am sorry.


Giedrius... You may read my posting for Gary, and then you may understand what I mean about money.
About the rules here... as I stated before, Know one here has not voilated any rules on Jurgita's web site. as for suggesting that im promoting ways of breaking rules, I am totally offended that you make such an erroneous statement "This is called, sharing knowlegde". This is a forum to ask and asnwer question for the purpose of helping people, not offend them. And that's exactly what I was doing for Shasha, (HELPING HER) by showing her a way to display her email. Now!, if she accomplishes that, and she is violating your rules, then you should take that up with her, Not me!... Besides, Ive never heard of such a rule, and further more,... your the first site of this kind to have such a rule. Though i'm sure if your practicing this type...there will be a few others also.


Giedrius... just for future reminders on how to handle a situation like this.... It would have been much better if you had sent me a private email stating " Kaylin Mahal, did you know we had a rule here on Jugitas and the rule is______.... and by the way, I am sure you were not aware of the rule or you wouldnt have violated it....and Please dont do that again, if so, Jurgitas will have no choice but to remove your profile". Now does'nt that sound more polite and none offending, more over, "Professonal", than to handle it the way you did from the start?
I certianly hope this will help you in the future for handling situations like this again.
If you dont understand what I am talking about, then i am sorry for you.

Giedrius... you have a happy day! :pleased:

Giedrius Majauskas
Giedrius Majauskas
ID: 666
Posts: 98
Date: 2008-07-17 07:08
Kaylin Mahal:

...

Some of the violations of rules need to be handled publically to avoid misunderstandings in future with other members. It is well-thought decission. It is simplier to state it once a while in forum than to send it out privately to members each time.
Of couse, harsh violations of rules might be handled in simpler and not so visible way, that is unverifieing or deleting profile. We do it more or less often for all the pervs that try to get in, for example.
Limiting sending or posting links in mails has significantly reduced amount of Nigerian scammers here, so Gary is correct.
Part of jurgita.com administration team.

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