Photoshop: To Be Or Not To Be? Total results: 32 Pages: 1 | 2 [ 2] |
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 ID: 160909 Posts: 572 | Date: 2007-02-24 04:22 To be or not be? If you are a photographer, are you for or against it? And why
in both cases? It makes photo better or it makes photo unrealistic? Do you use
it often and in what cases? What great (or useful) tricks do you know in
Photoshop
Share them here, please  I am still here |
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 ID: 172911 Posts: 249 | Date: 2007-02-24 04:55 to be!!! how would i hide my 60 years old wrinkles without it??   |
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 ID: 154201 Posts: 187 | Date: 2007-02-24 06:26 Photoshop is a love-hate item for me. I hate to use it extensively, but a bit of
plastic surgery on the image doesn't harm. Yet there are other issues with
photoshop to be dealt with. There had been news agencies who photoshopped war
pictures to make situations look worse than it actually is because it would
sell. It's up to the individual and discretion how much of it to use or abuse. |
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 ID: 160909 Posts: 572 | Date: 2007-02-24 07:00 I asked because I become a Photoshopper I don't need to hide wrinkles by now but I always use it
to make photo bright, to add some light and so on. But I know some people
extremely don't like photoshop work...I am still here |
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 ID: 114505 Posts: 926 | Date: 2007-02-24 13:25 Well, In real life,(so far, so good!) I don't have any wrinkles as of yet. 
BUT remember, if anyone lives long enough...
( AND, hopefully they [ALL] WILL! )...eventually, you get them.
I had a Great Grandmother who lived to be 102 years old...Time does show.
Unless, you want to be even more unnatural & have the devastating 'wear & tear'
of plastic surgery & be a slave to the Dr.'s $$$--Wallet...LOL
Photoshop is just a choice: What matters most is creativity for whatever the
project...
Photographer's like natural, HOWEVER, I get a lot of positive response from Pro
Camera Men that almost live for the ART mixed with modelling.
Their Portfolios are 'X-tremely expansive...and some venture into Media.
Just my experience |
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 ID: 179376 Posts: 828 | Date: 2007-02-26 07:06 I like it. I use it everyday. Hey but it is a personal choice.
Larry |
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 ID: 154201 Posts: 187 | Date: 2007-02-26 08:32 I use it extensively, but not to make other pictures appear from existing
pictures. I make my pictures in camera... |
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| Date: 2007-02-26 12:55 Whether the darkroom is digital or chemical, most pro photogs have used their
skill in this additional creative part of the process for a century or more.
<P>If you want to punch up your blacks or midtones or simply increase or
decrease the exposure by a stop or two, there is no shame in having control over
your own image, it is yours .
<P>Ansel Adams, who is one the most famous photographers that ever lived
is equally famous for his skill in the darkroom and his dodging and burning
techniques, as well as his zone system, and is legendary for helping photogs,
both pro and amatuer, improve the balance and beauty of their pics to make them
look MORE natural which the camera simply cannot do and is only part of the
process.
<P>The problem that seems to crop up, mostly in the minds of the
non-creative, I find, is the question of fakery or [*Link removed*] goal of the
photographer has usually been to make people or whatever the camera is aimed at
look it's absolute best or coolest, hopefully to a point where people look at
the picture and go "how'd they do that?", so whether it's a sunset that borders
on the supernatural or impossibly beautiful skin texture, the camera rarely
captures an image that is true to what your eye saw ( unless you're a genious
with filters) and will need a tonal balance or color boost, so unless you are
adding elements that simply did not exist in order to deceive, I say go nuts
with photoshop, virtually all pros do.
<P>Sorry about rambling on but I read technical tips specifically on
photoshop, from about ten world class photographers every month, most of whom
are National geographic veterans so it would seem apparent that the only ones
who have not embraced new technology such as this ( and I have heard of a few)
are usually older, large format shooters and god bless them for their gorgeous
contributions .
<P>The biggest problem is not photoshop, but bad [*Link removed*] is this
ridiculous concept I keep encountering that a CAMERA will make someone a
photgrapher and very little effort is made to learn about how it works,
focussing on what you see in your minds eye and wringing this out of your ccd or
film should be the goal and then when you get the image in your darkroom,
digital or otherwise, you will need only minor adjustments.
<P>If a choice needs to be made about photoshop or chemical darkroom, the
ease and health factor of digital is a no-brainer, being in a chemical darkroom
for hours inhaling chemicals while you brush on some chemical for an effect that
can be easily attained in photoshop with a few clicks ,I 'd have to go with
[*Link removed*] it's a choice of photoshop or no adjustments, well, good luck
!
<P>It's a good question that should be addressed, but remember, a
photographer who uses tricks to deceive wil be found out eventually anyways and
this should in no way reflect on the honest, skilled, photographer who is trying
to create beautiful or thought provoking images through hard work and the right
tools, one of which is photoshop. <P> Jean Ament, who was at one time the
worlds oldest woman, when asked about aging, at 113 years old said " I have only
ever had one wrinkle, the one I sit on ", Cheers to all |
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 ID: 177973 Posts: 192 | Date: 2007-02-27 04:42 I'm not a big fan of people altering their images through the usage of
computers, regardless if it makes them look better. I like natural beauty. |
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 ID: 172911 Posts: 249 | Date: 2007-02-27 04:56 Tim Jones:
I'm not a big fan of people altering their images through the usage of
computers, regardless if it makes them look better. I like natural beauty.
imagine a model who looks great and needs a perfect picture, but a little thing
is not right in a picture, like hank of hair in not right place. would you fix
that? new photo session is much more expensive than half of hour spent with
photoshop. just an opinion  |
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 ID: 177973 Posts: 192 | Date: 2007-02-27 13:16 But isn't that what gel is for? If the hair is that big of a nuisance she can
always hold it back with something, could she not?
I don't mind Photoshop as a last resort kind of thing, but now they use in EVERY
model picture these days seemingly. |
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| Date: 2007-02-27 14:09 There's certainly nothing more natural than a photo which is adjusted to match
the real world properly, seeing as they haven't even come slightly close to
creating a camera that can do what the human eye does.
<P>If Ansel Adams was alive today, it's fairly certain he would be pleased
to see the techniques he created in the chemical darkroom to create his timeless
images, have crossed over seamlessly to the digital darkroom for the use of
anyone who chooses.
<P>I have dozens of filters to help the light be more "natural", but it
sure is sweet to be able to tweak things to the exact way I want them to look,
when and if it's needed.
<P>A few people abusing this wonderful program for deceptve purposes only
proves what is generally taken for granted, that there are dishonest people in
the world. |
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| Date: 2007-02-27 14:13 Thanks for the interesting question Yana, your look is terrific and I think your
photographer has done a great job! |
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 ID: 154201 Posts: 187 | Date: 2007-03-01 06:31 Well I won't create another photograph out of a few images, photoshop is
something I use with such caution that its so hard to notice what had been done.
However I had seen some really botched up photoshop work that I can tell some
enhancements are highly overdone or unnatural, like increasing bust size and
lengthening the clevage on some women's images... |
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| Date: 2007-03-01 17:18 I agree with Billy- must use caution when using a photo-shop program- and also
about noticing the enhancements - you don't want that. Me personally only use it
when necessary -  |
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 ID: 184654 Posts: 15 | Date: 2007-03-06 10:22 To be with precisious touch |
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 ID: 171642 Posts: 5 | Date: 2007-03-13 22:29 Don't own it and will stay away from it. To tempting to ruin reality.
I use ACDsee 8 is color correct and change exposeures. Same things I would do in
the lab.
As far as ""imagine a model who looks great and needs a perfect picture, but a
little thing is not right in a picture, like hank of hair in not right place.
would you fix that? new photo session is much more expensive than half of hour
spent with photoshop. just an opinion ""
That's why we are Professionals and Hair and MUAs are on the shoots. Not a hair
out of place..LOL |
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| Date: 2007-03-13 22:56 Nothing will accomplish more lab procedures in less time than photoshop, which
is why it's the industry standard, hands down.
<P>Pick up any photo magazine for photographers and you will find the
worlds top pro's ( one's you've heard of , anyway ) giving tip's on how to use
PS and how they get the same thing done in a seconds that used to take four
hours in a lab and it looks better.
<P> There is no one whose opinion is the end all and be all in the
industry,that would be preposterous, use whatever you're used to that you're
comfortable, but for myself I'll have to side with the big guys and try to learn
from the knowledge and experience they want to share. |
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 ID: 185837 Posts: 336 | Date: 2007-03-14 07:24 To be, definitely. I would, however, stress that it should be used to add
something to a shoot rather than replace a good setup in the beginning. Examples
are:
Getting the right background in an outdoor shoot 
Models turning up with strap marks, eye shadow, tattoos then stating "but can't
you just photoshop it"***** Spring approaches and soon the fairies will awaken ***** |
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| Date: 2007-04-17 17:42 The commercial print industry is pushing the limits of photo programs, check out
the
savvy retail magazines in Times Square New York !
It's a great thing , we are on the cutting edge, If it sells it's good to go! |
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