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 ID: 259092 Posts: 4 | Date: 2008-12-10 19:46 i got notified by a woman named Brenda who said that her store C4U (Clothes 4 U)
was opening up and needed models for their clothes. the payoff was 500 bucks but
she wants to pay through creditcard and wants a hell of alot of personal info. i
told a friend about it who told me to ask around and that this was most likely a
scam. He said a friend of his had the same offer. anyone else get this offer? |
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| Date: 2008-12-10 19:56 Does sound like a scam
First I've ever heard of paying a model by credit card though |
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ID: 259092 Posts: 4 | Date: 2008-12-10 20:04 that's what i was thinking. thanks gary |
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 ID: 255444 Posts: 842 | Date: 2008-12-10 21:06 Someone else DID get this and they emailed me about it. I have directed them to
this forum post...Why do we struggle to paddle upstream while the river is taking us where we need to go? |
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| Date: 2008-12-11 09:12 Run for your life!!!
LOL~ |
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 ID: 182744 Posts: 1904 | Date: 2008-12-11 12:10 Gary Young:
Does sound like a scam
First I've ever heard of paying a model by credit card though
Why am I not surprised that you never heard of that payment method? Why am I
also not surprised that you once again opened your mouth and made a statement
without having a clue of what you are talking about.
A kindly tip for the future: If you do not know...shut up!
I am beginning to suspect that I am the only professional photographer on this
site who owns a model agency. (Bought in June 2007.) I have known quite a few
models that are set up to take credit card payments. I knew of the practice
before the popularity of the internet and I know that the practice expanded
exponentially with the advent of model-owned websites and especially the
invention of Pay Pal. I know a lot of professional models who give businesses
and photographers the option of paying deposits via credit card. Credit cards
are much safer than checks, cheaper than wire transfers,
certified checks and monetary instruments and faster than the mail.
For 8 months I have been wrestling with a nightmare of logistical and cost
issues in trying to take a brick and mortar agency electronic and a lot of my
hair-pulling has been a result of the fact that most amateur models do not have
a quick, easy and track-able method of accepting payments that I can assign to
staff without worries.
While I have had my issues with PayPal in their early days (including winning a
settlement from them after years of agony) the company has cleaned up their
procedural act tremendously and I am now suggesting to models that they create a
method of accepting credit card payments.
The nice thing about credit cards: You know instantly whether or not a payment
has been made and credit card fraud is extremely rare as compared to check
kiting schemes.
A model is a business person and should act like one especially in the financial
arena. I know of thousands of models that accept credit cards. You know of none.
Hmmmmmmm.... Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should  |
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1904 | Date: 2008-12-11 12:49 Aaron Brown:
i got notified by a woman named Brenda who said that her store C4U (Clothes 4 U)
was opening up and needed models for their clothes. the payoff was 500 bucks but
she wants to pay through creditcard and wants a hell of alot of personal info. i
told a friend about it who told me to ask around and that this was most likely a
scam. He said a friend of his had the same offer. anyone else get this offer?
You actually have not provided enough information for me to know whether or not
the offer is legitimate, a scam or merely a poorly thought out business plan.
Those of you who know me know that I am loath to call something a scam without
evidence or proof. I always advocate that people be extremely careful in
all dealings and do good research.
There is also the possibility with this person that there is no hard cash flow
and that she is funding her new enterprise with her own credit. This is never a
wise thing to do but may be a course of action that she believes might work for
her. I do not think it will.
Typically, a proper business enterprise will either impose a method of payment
via their standard business practice or ask what form of payment you can accept.
If this lady is on the up-and-up my suspicion is that she lacks hard cash. Her
venture might flop but that is of no concern to you as long as you get paid.
I am concerned about your mention of "a lot of personal info". What exactly does
that mean? What kind of info is she asking for?
One of the big benefits of a model accepting payments by credit card is that
there is no personal information required from you to receive payments. Not even
an address. Was the personal information related to the payment or somehow
related to specs for the modeling job? Right now, because of questions regarding
the legal interpretation of certain U.S. federal laws, I attach a copy of a
model's government issued identification card to my copy of every model release
signed. This is mandatory in the US for any nude or sexually explicit imagery,
but I, and most professional photographers that I know, do it for all shoots as
a personal safety measure.
However, this ID is generally photocopied at the time of the shoot although for
Adult work, a copy of your ID may be required to be faxed in advance. Please
only do this with companies you know and trust.
~ Now, internet modeling and booking is still in a very experimental stage. An
offer to pay you to work after just a single internet contact screams two things
to me: Fraud or Amateur. I am still trying to work things out with my agency as
to how to vet and verify individuals located through the internet. It is
actually proving to be a very, very costly undertaking and as yet, I have not
figured out how to break even. Proper vetting requires a trusted person or
employee on the ground at the location where the potential model lives. The big
agencies tend to either have people stationed in major cities in various
countries or can work through local agencies to have a potential model looked
at, interviewed and test shot.
With networking sites such as this, members can get some sense of comfort by
working only with those members who have already worked with other members.
(As a matter of fact, I think I will start a forum post where members can list
other members that they have worked with, met or otherwise interacted with on a
regular basis.)
I believe that the bottom line is that unless you have interacted with someone,
or know of other trusted people who have, be cautious until you find out more
about the person making the offer.
I cannot make a suggestion based upon the information you have provided except
to say "Be very careful". Do not let you fear of losing a potentially legitimate
job override your otherwise good sense. Proceed with caution.
Besides, if you cannot accept credit cards then she is not an issue, is she
now?
Robert Leonard, however, has provided some clue in stating that he knows someone
else that has received the same offer. While it may be likely that she is
seeking a number of models for this clothing line, if she has no cash-in-hand, I
see problems. If we find that there is a huge number of people receiving these
emails then I would say it is a safe bet that something is foul. I also keep
wondering about that personal info bit.
There are too many Clothes 4 U stores for me to look this gal up without more
information. However, if she is working for a franchise or has a retail store
that she buys clothing wholesale for, then she would not need models. Franchises
tend to mandate their own marketing practices and models for advertising are
usually obtained through headquarters and not the individual stores themselves.
Individual retail operators will also seek models in their local area as cheaper
and more convenient than going through the hassle and risk of internet
recruiting. It makes no financial sense to pay travel, room and board,
especially for an unknown model.
$500 is also a high amount for a store to pay for an unknown model.
If this is not a scam or fraud then this is a person who is woefully ignorant
about the trade and who will be bankrupt shortly. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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ID: 255444 Posts: 842 | Date: 2008-12-11 12:52 This is a copy of a similar email sent to another member here...
Hi XXXXXX, Am glad you are supportive of XXXXX's modeling ambition. thats really
good of you. I will be at the shoot with her. Though am a very busy person. but
i make sure i attend photoshoots, especially when it has to do with young
models.
This first shoot will determine if XXXXX will be signed as one of C4U official
models. I will make arrangements with the shoot supervivsor ASAP, so he will be
contacting you very soon to schedule a date and time within this period of time
for the shoot, Okay.
The information below should be submitted to me ASAP, Becuase it will be
forwarded to the financial officer/sponsor company of the shoot, who are the
ones sponsoring the entire shoot Including the logistics( booking of studio,
stage deco, transportation of crew(Photographer, MAU, stylist) down to your
location.
PERSONAL INFORMATION
Models Name in full.........
Residential address in full...........
City...........
State...........
Zip-code............
Phone number...(cell and home).....
Age.............
Charges...$500(2 hours)
Statistics for Attires....
Statistics for shoes.....
Any previous Modeling Experience.....
PAYMENT INFORMATION
Name on Card.............
CardCard Number: ............
Card Type.......................
Expiry Date.................
CCV..................
Issuing Bank...........
Card Limit.................
SSN....................
MMN............
I will like to read from you soon with this information, As we have other models
that will be doing the shoot too. This will enable fast process of XXXXX's
payment. As it is the usual policy of the company to pay models before the
shoot, so as to be rest assure that the model are set to shoot.Why do we struggle to paddle upstream while the river is taking us where we need to go? |
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ID: 255444 Posts: 842 | Date: 2008-12-11 13:04 ...if nothing else, the need for card limit is questionable....Why do we struggle to paddle upstream while the river is taking us where we need to go? |
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 ID: 262125 Posts: 215 | Date: 2008-12-11 13:10 The e-mail above is a scam, no doubt abouth that, why would he ask for your
credit card details including your ssn.People can always doubt what you say, but they can't doubt what you do. |
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 ID: 260629 Posts: 552 | Date: 2008-12-11 13:26 Agreed with Akland Images. If she is going to pay you, there is no need for
**your** credit card information. |
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| Date: 2008-12-11 13:28 Akland Images:
The e-mail above is a scam, no doubt abouth that, why would he ask for your
credit card details including your ssn.
Well that confirms that then
Carib Goodies:
Why am I not surprised that you never heard of that payment method?
An aspiring model is hardly going to be able to accept payment by credit card or
debit card, however I could maybe see an agency with amateur models accepting
credit card payments from photographers, though not in Europe
Carib Goodies:
Why am I also not surprised that you once again opened your mouth and made a
statement without having a clue of what you are talking about.
As far as scam goes I do actually know what I'm talking about, or to put it in
other words fraud
Carib Goodies:
A kindly tip for the future: If you do not know...shut up!
Well... that's certainly not a very nice tone |
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| Date: 2008-12-11 14:48 Yes It was Me I know, The scammer tried but my Dad works for an aggency that
works with Id Theft, He said No way that they need your ccardinfo so they can
PAY YOU? this a textbook 411 scam. PLEASE do not be taken by this type of scam,
MY dad asked About her and she would not talk about where she lived. How longshe
has been working as a scout? Come on Put on that chasity belt !! don;t get
screwed...hahahahahha CAUGHT YA !!!!!!!!!!!! |
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ID: 259092 Posts: 4 | Date: 2008-12-11 17:35 Robert Leonard:
This is a copy of a similar email sent to another member here...
Hi XXXXXX, Am glad you are supportive of XXXXX's modeling ambition. thats really
good of you. I will be at the shoot with her. Though am a very busy person. but
i make sure i attend photoshoots, especially when it has to do with young
models.
This first shoot will determine if XXXXX will be signed as one of C4U official
models. I will make arrangements with the shoot supervivsor ASAP, so he will be
contacting you very soon to schedule a date and time within this period of time
for the shoot, Okay.
The information below should be submitted to me ASAP, Becuase it will be
forwarded to the financial officer/sponsor company of the shoot, who are the
ones sponsoring the entire shoot Including the logistics( booking of studio,
stage deco, transportation of crew(Photographer, MAU, stylist) down to your
location.
PERSONAL INFORMATION
Models Name in full.........
Residential address in full...........
City...........
State...........
Zip-code............
Phone number...(cell and home).....
Age.............
Charges...$500(2 hours)
Statistics for Attires....
Statistics for shoes.....
Any previous Modeling Experience.....
PAYMENT INFORMATION
Name on Card.............
CardCard Number: ............
Card Type.......................
Expiry Date.................
CCV..................
Issuing Bank...........
Card Limit.................
SSN....................
MMN............
I will like to read from you soon with this information, As we have other models
that will be doing the shoot too. This will enable fast process of XXXXX's
payment. As it is the usual policy of the company to pay models before the
shoot, so as to be rest assure that the model are set to shoot.
THAT IS THE EXACT SAME EMAIL I GOT AND I CAN EVEN POST A COPY UP TOO |
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1904 | Date: 2008-12-11 19:01 Robert Leonard:
This is a copy of a similar email sent to another member here...
Hi XXXXXX, Am glad you are supportive of XXXXX's modeling ambition. thats really
good of you. I will be at the shoot with her. Though am a very busy person. but
i make sure i attend photoshoots, especially when it has to do with young
models.
This first shoot will determine if XXXXX will be signed as one of C4U official
models. I will make arrangements with the shoot supervivsor ASAP, so he will be
contacting you very soon to schedule a date and time within this period of time
for the shoot, Okay.
The information below should be submitted to me ASAP, Becuase it will be
forwarded to the financial officer/sponsor company of the shoot, who are the
ones sponsoring the entire shoot Including the logistics( booking of studio,
stage deco, transportation of crew(Photographer, MAU, stylist) down to your
location.
PERSONAL INFORMATION
Models Name in full.........
Residential address in full...........
City...........
State...........
Zip-code............
Phone number...(cell and home).....
Age.............
Charges...$500(2 hours)
Statistics for Attires....
Statistics for shoes.....
Any previous Modeling Experience.....
PAYMENT INFORMATION
Name on Card.............
CardCard Number: ............
Card Type.......................
Expiry Date.................
CCV..................
Issuing Bank...........
Card Limit.................
SSN....................
MMN............
I will like to read from you soon with this information, As we have other models
that will be doing the shoot too. This will enable fast process of XXXXX's
payment. As it is the usual policy of the company to pay models before the
shoot, so as to be rest assure that the model are set to shoot.
Thanks, Robert. Now this is information around which a judgment can be
formed.
Most of the information above is needed when you are making a
payment. It is a smartly worded email. Read it again, people. You are agreeing
to pay them $500 for a studio shoot. If you give them
your info, they will be able to charge your credit card for $500. When you
report them, they hold up the contract you made with them authorizing the
charge. If they limit their greed to a mere $500.
This information:
Issuing Bank...........
Card Limit.................
SSN....................
MMN............
...is information that only an identity thief would need.
The biggest warning sign
You do not make credit card transactions through email! Never fill in an email
asking for information. NEVER EVER!
Secure credit card transactions are carried out only encrypted web pages. In
most browsers, the address bar will turn yellow and a 'lock' icon will appear at
an edge of your browser window. This is one indicator that your transaction is
safe.
If you are not on a secure page, any credit card information you type can be
copied.
As a bottom line, people have to understand that a business will not offer to
hire and pay a model it has never seen. If you sit back and just wait for offers
to come into your email Because you are just oh so beautiful all you are
going to get is scammed or contacted by horny people.
Use your common sense. There are legitimate photographers out there looking to
trade with or hire models for a shoot. These will be the photographers in your
local area or traveling photographers. This is your main market. A big offer is
not going to suddenly come to your email unless it is a scam. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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 ID: 264580 Posts: 3 | Date: 2008-12-29 01:49 Aaron Brown:
i got notified by a woman named Brenda who said that her store C4U (Clothes 4 U)
was opening up and needed models for their clothes. the payoff was 500 bucks but
she wants to pay through creditcard and wants a hell of alot of personal info.
anyone else get this offer?
Yes, i've got the same offer from Brenda Crutchfield brenda4u2feel at
yahoo.com
Also be aware of Mr. Kenzo Smith kenzo_models at veryfast.biz |
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ID: 264580 Posts: 3 | Date: 2008-12-29 01:56 CONGRETULATION!!! YOUR INTERNATIONAL MODEL ENTRY HAD BE APPROVED!!!
I write on behaive of Kenzo Models for C4U clothing line
to inform you that your entry has been approved as one of the
international models for C4U Promotion 2008/09. Here is your reference
number: MD23455ER7C4U. Make sure this ref. number is keep securely.
This will be your C4U ID Number. You are to pay a refundable
International entry fee of $600, which will be refunded and added to
your payment as soon as your invetaion letter and other traveling
papers is prepared. The entre fee must be wired via Western union
Money transfer not later than Monday 23/12/2008 to:
Kenzo Smith
148 Beecham Road,
Reading,
Berks RG30 2RE
UK .
Make sure the entry fee is pad before the stated date, so as to be
able to be part of our official models. you can visit C4U website:
www.clothez4u.com to view the clothes you will be modeling. As soon
as the transfer are done, get back to me with the western union
transaction details such as senders full name and address,MTCN #(10
digit pin),EXACT AMOUNT SENT in the folowing forms:
Senders name.....
Senders full address....
Mtcn pin(10 digit #).......
Exact amount sent......
Security Question and answer......
I expect to hear from you soon.
CONGRETULATIONS!!!!
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Kenzo Smith
kenzo_models at veryfast.biz |
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ID: 260629 Posts: 552 | Date: 2008-12-29 15:21 Never send money via Western Union for too-good-to-be-true items/opportunities.
There is no way to get your money back once it is wired. |
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