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| Date: 2008-12-30 13:14 I recently got into the book of one of London modelling agency and I got
a couple of query that I thought you guys might be able to advice me with. Do I
have a say on what pictures goes into their website? I supply them with 30-50
shot and I feel that they have put 25 of the one that doesn’t do me any
justice. Should I call the agency and talk to them about it or should I leave it
believing that they know what best! |
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 ID: 255444 Posts: 842 | Date: 2008-12-30 13:19 You HAD a say before you suplied them the images. Now it is a bit late. If you
did not want them to use an image, why provide it? At this point I would suggest
you let them be the judge. I often believe the subject can be the worst
critic...
A point to consider, is that if you "rock the boat", they may loose interest.Why do we struggle to paddle upstream while the river is taking us where we need to go? |
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| Date: 2008-12-30 13:21 Read the small print in the contract from start to end, if there's anything you
disagree with you never noticed when you signed it you may need to get a lawyer
involved to either modify it or if no other choice revoke the contract |
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| Date: 2008-12-31 13:11 This is very common. You should only submit what you want shown. Little late to
make a stink isn't it?
Just be aware next time.. |
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 ID: 269021 Posts: 20 | Date: 2008-12-31 13:17 I say if they really want you as a model and want the best for you then if you
talk to them, calmly and sincerely, then they should change the pictures...  |
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| Date: 2008-12-31 16:34 Thanks for all the advice guys- when they ask me to submit my portfolio, they want as many
pictures as they can have for they will choose what goes into their website. Out
of exciment I give them everything that I have so that they can see me from both
angle thinking only of how they are going to represent me....this has been a
learning process and everything you guys had said are very much appreciated and
taken it to heart. |
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 ID: 182744 Posts: 1903 | Date: 2008-12-31 21:44 Reon Lee:
[b]I recently got into the book of one of London modelling agency and I got a
couple of query that I thought you guys might be able to advice me with. Do I
have a say on what pictures goes into their website?
Typically for this type of venture, no. But you can ask. If this is what you
allude to, your pictures amount to little more than fluff to help them build a
superficial image as a happening agency with lots of models chomping at the bit
(or slurping at the trough).
Reon Lee:
I supply them with 30-50 shot
Eeeek! Next time ask us here first before you do something like that. A
mainstream agency won't promote you using images you submitted. Too many legal
entanglements. Too many marketing problems.
I will bet my next check that any contract you signed certified that you had the
right to to give them permission to distribute those pictures. What that means
is that if some tog gets pissed at how the image of you he took is being used to
make someone else money without him getting any royalties, the company just goes
"huh?"  and points their finger your direction and says "She sold
us the rights, have your lawyers chop her head off!".
Reon Lee:
and I feel that they have put 25 of the one that doesn’t do me any justice.
Should I call the agency and talk to them about it or should I leave it
believing that they know what best! [/b]
Yeah...there is a word for a no-name model who tries to nit-pick what an agency
can and cannot use to promote her. That word is "unemployed".
Anyhow, I seriously doubt that you are talking about a modeling agency here.
What you seem to have described is an administratively managed portfolio site in
which you have zero control of how, where and when they use you images. I half
suspect that one day your image will pop up in an ad showing you as one of those
girls available right now for 'hot sex in my area'. Yup, lady, this is how it
happen and you with no legal pot to piss in.
Be careful out there, ladies. Peppering your image on every nifty site that
comes along is NOT your way to fame and fortune. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should  |
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| Date: 2009-01-01 03:47 Ouch! In the context about my Agency being just an Administrative
portfolio site? Will hello Mr know it all! have you check them? I bet not! I
should watch your mouth before you say things that can land you with a lawsuit
lmao! Robert is right I am my worse critic and I should leave things as they
are! What I forgotten to bear in mind is that, images the Agency put in their
website is what best after all is their job to get me working right Carib? And
talking of not consulting here first before I made that decision? Forgive me for
being vague and this of course without prejudice...I didn’t know that I need
to ask who’s who in here of what should I and shouldn’t do? And for my
pictures ending one day pop up in an ad showing as one of those girls available
for 'hot sex in my area? For your information Carib, I do have the Wright to the
prints. |
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1903 | Date: 2009-01-01 18:22 Reon Lee:
Ouch! In the context about my Agency being just an Administrative
portfolio site? Will hello Mr know it all! have you check them? I bet not! I
should watch your mouth before you say things that can land you with a lawsuit
lmao! Robert is right I am my worse critic and I should leave things as they
are! What I forgotten to bear in mind is that, images the Agency put in their
website is what best after all is their job to get me working right Carib? And
talking of not consulting here first before I made that decision? Forgive me for
being vague and this of course without prejudice...I didn’t know that I need
to ask who’s who in here of what should I and shouldn’t do? And for my
pictures ending one day pop up in an ad showing as one of those girls available
for 'hot sex in my area? For your information Carib, I do have the Wright to the
prints.
Yes, you are right. I never checked out the 'agency'. Do you know why? You never
supplied a name! The response is entirely based upon the information
you supplied! 
Everything you have said points to a business attitude, to wit: "Let us wait and
see who stumbles across her page and bites" rather than "Let us go out and sell
this lady to our clients".
Nothing you have posted so far indicates that it is a traditional modeling
agency that you are dealing with. In fact, your statements indicate the
opposite.
My agency would never accept the word of a model that she owns 'all rights' to
her own images. First, the model would have to show us the paperwork showing
ownership of rights. Second, such would have to be cross referenced and
verified. Third, from a legal standpoint, the model could try to make a case and
hold the agency hostage, demanding a percentage of any and all business that
that model's image (not work) may have driven to the agency. (In other
words: a client sees your image while browsing and it attracts the client to the
agency. When they look around, they see another model that they prefer to
you and hires that model instead of you. Now, were you able to track the
behavior of the client {very, very possible these days}, you might be able to
say: "The image I owned got you that business. Where is my cut?")
However, whatever contract you signed would likely prevent such action. But the
agency has no guaranteed way of knowing whether or not you lied and in fact that
a photographer like me shot the image and retained rights. I, as the
photographer, could present a better case than you that the agency owes me
royalties.
This is but one reason why a traditional agency would never use model supplied
images for promotional.
No, Darling, you do not have to ask any of the experts here anything that
you do not want to. You were obviously brought up different than I was. I was
taught to utilize all resources available to me before making major decisions.
That is why I pay advisers.
You have the ability to get advice for free. Remind me in the future not to
provide advice for free. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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| Date: 2009-01-01 19:43 First and foremost I apologise to you Carib if I offended you in anyway! I didnt
mean to cause any argument out of this- In the context of what you are saying, I'll be the first
to admit that I dont pretend to know anything about how the industry work coz I
dont! and yes you are absulotely right, no agency would tever ake any images
that a model will supply models. That is why when the Agency in question
accepted me in their book they have to utalise their own resources their
contracted photoghapher, make up artist, hair stylist and all that malarkey to
get the right images that they want for their books.......I paid for the images
at the end that is why I can say that I own the rights.
Thank you for your wisdome! |
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1903 | Date: 2009-01-01 19:58 Reon Lee:
First and foremost I apologise to you Carib if I offended you in anyway! I didnt
mean to cause any argument out of this- In the context of what you are saying, I'll be the first
to admit that I dont pretend to know anything about how the industry work coz I
dont! and yes you are absulotely right, no agency would tever ake any images
that a model will supply models. That is why when the Agency in question
accepted me in their book they have to utalise their own resources their
contracted photoghapher, make up artist, hair stylist and all that malarkey to
get the right images that they want for their books.......I paid for the images
at the end that is why I can say that I own the rights.
Thank you for your wisdome!
Hi, my apologies for the terse response.
If I might say: The information you just provided is new and is
more in line with traditional agency practices.
I would like to point out one thing: Simply paying for images does not transfer
ownership rights. For that, the photographer (or the company that the
photographer works for) would have to sign a piece of paper giving you ownership
rights.
Example: If someone walks into a photo studio and buys a portfolio set, even
though they paid for the sitting, the studio still retains the rights and
ownership.
An ethical agency does not sell images to models it represents.
Now, to answer your original question.
The agency should have assigned you an account representative, personal manager
or contact person. (Different agencies may hae different job titles for your
contact.) You can set a meeting with this individual to discuss the method of
representation and the images used. I do not guarantee that you won't irritate
them, but you do have a right to oversee and review their management practices
regarding your account. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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| Date: 2009-01-02 00:39 Hey, no harm done! Yes the Agency have asigned me a representative and yes I
signed papers to basically say that I got the right to the images...thanks for
pointing that out. |
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| Date: 2009-01-02 00:43 Reon Lee:
Hey, no harm done! Yes the Agency have asigned me a representative and yes I
signed papers to basically say that I got the right to the images...thanks for
pointing that out.
Well good luck with you're new job & hope all goes well for you |
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