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I have pop selected in preferrences in my profile because I do listen to some pop music, and I mean mainstream electric pop, not that alternative electronic garbage!

So why have admin got them grouped together when they are totally separate categories?

rap, hip hop, r n b, and your "so called" dance are all alternative (sub-pop) type, they are definately not mainstream, and never were or will be!

We need these categories separated & fixed!!
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Melissa Robertson:

I have pop selected in preferrences in my profile because I do listen to some pop music, and I mean mainstream electric pop, not that alternative electronic garbage!

So why have admin got them grouped together when they are totally separate categories?

rap, hip hop, r n b, and your "so called" dance are all alternative (sub-pop) type, they are definately not mainstream, and never were or will be!

We need these categories separated & fixed!!



Rap, hip hip and R&B do not even have the same musical origins, although rap and hip hop share several common roots, including racial origin, all the way back to slavery. Rap and Hip Hop can hardly be classed as alternative or sub-pop as they existed BEFORE pop music existed. And yes...I was alive when pop music was introduced. My dad has rap and hip hop 78s of these musical forms from the 1940s. For 35 years e DJ'd an old timers radio program. His living room is still stacked from floor to ceiling with tapes, 8 tracks, reel-to-reel, platters, etc. of music back to the beginnings of the recording industry.

Don't let me go over to his house and grab you a Zoot-Suit rap from 1938!

Jurgta's classifications are correct.
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When I was 14 I used to just switch on the national new music station & I never cared for genre, in fact genre is a word I only got into the habit of using when I started putting cd's on the media player, back then if I liked the sound of it I listened to it or bought the record, now the music industry loved grouping this sound & that sound together, sub-pop as far as I was aware came from the US, I had never heard of that one till around 1993/94, I thought that was another name for fusion:dunno:

Fusion is like Anthrax & public enemy or Aerosmith & run dmc...

Genre grouping of different sounds varies from one place to another, the only exception being rock, metal, punk & death metal being the same everywhere, in the UK house/trance/rap/r'n'b/hip-hop are grouped together as alternative...
Where as rock & metal, along with rock orientated electric pop & "indie" are the mainstream in the UK & Holland right now... everything changes all the time, that's progress:thumbup:

Indie is basically like depeche mode or happy mondays... just record any sound they like & don't stick to genre labels and are mainly on independant record labels.

I noticed nobody mentioned reggae here? Bob Marley, UB40, Maxi Priest:dunno:

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I noticed nobody mentioned reggae here? Bob Marley, UB40, Maxi Priest:dunno:


What? And confuse the issue with reggae, ska, dance hall, rumba, reggaeton, quelbe, kiaso, conga, calypso, skant, criolla, rock steady, benta, funji, abakua, timba, dub, bachata, sarbanda, chacona, aguinaldo, chutney, soca....

If people do not realize that rap, as a US black art form was around from slavery days, how much more difficult will it be to accept the fact that Caribbean music changed European music as far back as the 1600s. Today's rap styles were popularized by Caribbean imports to the US.

People know what the media tells them. People listen to music, thinking it is reggae, when it is not.

Most of today's music, from R&B to Jazz, to the native sounds of Vietnam to Scandinavia to the UK, to Hawaii and elsewhere, owe their sound in part to the various Indian tribes of the Caribbean and later, the Africans who were forced to settle the region.

I will debate the matter with someone who knows music history as opposed to someone who only knows the music the media tells them to listen to. I grew up playing every type of music on the steel pan for tourists. Believe me, when you play Mozart in a 60 member steel pan orchestra, you had better know your musical styles.

(By the way...can anyone name the instruments typically used in a steel orchestra? Bob Marley was a player of the steel drum and used various types in many of his reggae, ska and other musics that he is popular for. My steel band, the Charlotte Amalie High School Mello Hawks, played his song "Coming In From the Cold" as his requiem when he died.)
:cantlook: Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should :cool:

What about merengue and bachata are great, any tipe of music is great as log as U feel good when U listen:saint::saint:
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Rap actually has it's roots in pop and rock in the early seventies. At that time. you had songs like "Life is a Rock (Though the Radio Rolled Me), and The Guess Who favorite "New Mother Nature".

The term pop music is actually shortened from the term popular music. Popular music encompassed most music that people liked to listen to. With the advent of music genres such as acid rock and heavy metal, pop music started to become the lighter side of rock. Pop music has pretty much been brought into the light rock dance genre. Though the lines have pretty much stabilized, pop music has always been kinda hard to clarify.

I hope this helps.

I'm sorry, but I got a title wrong. It's "Life is a Rock (But the Radio Rolled Me).

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(By the way...can anyone name the instruments typically used in a steel orchestra? Bob Marley was a player of the steel drum and used various types in many of his reggae, ska and other musics that he is popular for. My steel band, the Charlotte Amalie High School Mello Hawks, played his song "Coming In From the Cold" as his requiem when he died.)

Which instruments do you want named? you already named the steel drum which is the staple instrument of the steel band.
 
 
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