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 ID: 188071 Posts: 538 | Date: 2009-09-23 10:06 What would you do if you lived under a Gov't order to force you to destroy any
books you had, or getting arrested for being found keeping them within your
possession? This means that you'd have to go underground, in order to preserve
the truths of historical books...And save your life as you try to obtain REAL
Facts.....Not Manufactured ones, that the current political movement only
circulates. What then, Pictures, without words?
The only known print or literature is what every citizen is dictated to as being
a 1 for all read. EQUAL ACCESS & everyone is forced to think alike by removing
freedom of variety. Variety is NOW pre-chosen in any written works, &
brainwashing is issued via television broadcast monitored by the Gov't.
You would be at risk for being squealed on if you didn't voluntarily turn in
your books.
In defiance of the literary regulations, your only resolve was to become a
"living book" through memorization in order to pass down the truths from one
generation to the next, that the Gov't's will would enforce a society of
fireman, who go about "pro-trolling" any suspect considered to be concealing
outlawed literature, & sent forth to burn ALL books in contradiction to mandate,
in order to delete past Historical events, & mind control the new society.
The FUTURE would ONLY contain what the new establishment saw as its Historical
Facts.
See Example of Author Ray Bradbury's concept from the 1966 movie. 
See Fahrenheit 451 =--->The Temperature at which books burn!'Hair' TODAY, (Cy)  .:. NET=---> Tomorrow!   |
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 ID: 194304 Posts: 143 | Date: 2009-09-23 10:29 Love the post, excellent concept, Andromeda.
That would be like an institutionalized public, with no freedom of silent
speech.
Seeing signs of this magnitude would cause me to feel like a house of wax took
over the planet and caused everyone to freeze everything previously learned and
now become one clump of pre-fabbed minds which would eventually do away with the
more diverse aspects of personality, and force a unison of thoughts to which no
objectives could be raised. It's almost like cultivating a Stepford society,
only without pre-programmed robots disguised as humans, and replacing the
original host of a human who had freewill.
Nothing could be worse than loosing individualism. But would crimes become more
predictable? Thus producing an easier detainment ratio of instigators.
Good going with the play on words, substituting "pro-trolling" for
patrolling.
once upon a time.
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ID: 188071 Posts: 538 | Date: 2009-09-23 10:44 Hey, Dominic...You're kindling the page>
So now you're a cyber fireman..
FUTURE FORWARD: . .
I thought about a flip side of children being able to carry DVD's to class, in
order to lighten their backpack load, by eliminating the weight of Text
Books...But not having the freedom to choose other personal literary interests,
would place society in a mental bind of 1 spoon fed doctrine of a Governmental
thought training boot camp.'Hair' TODAY, (Cy) .:. NET=---> Tomorrow! |
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 ID: 235463 Posts: 395 | Date: 2009-09-23 12:27 Ray Bradbury's Farenheit 451. What the book. If anyone tried to take my books, I
would be shooting. I would die in life for only a few things. I wouldn't think
twice about taking a bullet for my family, If I lost my life to save someone who
was trapped by the beast (fire), or to protect the rights guaranteed us by the
US Constitution. I believe that books fall under the First Ammendment right to
freedom of speech, press, and religion. It doesn't matter what you read. You
should be able to read it. I'm not a big fan of a lot of types of books, but if
someone wants to read them, it's their right. Nobody should take that right
away. |
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ID: 235463 Posts: 395 | Date: 2009-09-23 12:31 BTW, 451 degrees is the temperature at which book paper spontaniously cumbusts
and burns. |
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 ID: 182744 Posts: 1903 | Date: 2009-09-24 18:56 You can have my books when you pry them from my cold, dead
fingers.
Hey, Mark...former printer here. As far as F451 being the temperature at which
"book paper spontaneously combusts and burns"...
The Material Data Safety sheets which businesses are required to have on hand in
case of emergency state different burn temperatures for different types of
paper...and there are thousands of types.
As far as "book paper" is concerned...if you could please tell me what "book
paper" is, I would be quite appreciative. Plus, like US currency, many books are
printed on CLOTH, not paper. (Ever wonder how come you can wash a dollar bill
whereas any paper in your pocket turns to soggy mush?)
But the principle of Bradbury's F451 holds both in emphasizing the back plot of
book burning and in fact that today, in all countries around the world, there
are books that are either banned or can get you in a lot of trouble for
possessing. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should  |
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 ID: 266441 Posts: 45 | Date: 2009-09-26 21:32 <Give me liberty or give me death,(patrick henry 1775.<I would fight
without restraint for my liberties.(rico 2009. im hopeing it doesn't ever come
to that.But im prepared . www.cheaperthandirt.com:Be Kinder than necessary because everyone is fighting some kind of battle. |
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ID: 235463 Posts: 395 | Date: 2009-09-25 20:01 Callwood:
You can have my books when you pry them from my cold, dead
fingers.
Hey, Mark...former printer here. As far as F451 being the temperature at which
"book paper spontaneously combusts and burns"...
In firefighting, you are trained in flashover situations. It is very common to
use old damaged library books in these situations. It is common for these books
to exercise spontanious combustion at 451 degrees farenheit. Even before Ray
Bradbury's masterpiece, it has been a common belief that book paper ignites and
burns at 451 degrees. |
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1903 | Date: 2009-09-25 20:14 Rico S:
<Give me liberty or give me death,(patrick henry 1775.<I regret that i
have but one life to give for my country(Nathan hale,<I would fight the
fascists without restraint for my liberties.(rico 2009. im hopeing it doesn't
ever come to that.But im quite prepared for armageddon.
www.cheaperthandirt.com
The most important quote?
Stone walls do not a prison make, nor iron bars a
cage.
~'Richard Lovelace'
While he was referring to the mind being free, no matter the physical
entrapment...we can take it a step further: So long as the written word exists,
and we are free to create and indulge in it, there can be no prison for the
mind.
You can burn books. You can shoot everyone who wears glasses (Pol Pot).
After that you can only break the hands of every living man, woman and child on
the planet.
Psst...the secret is...you don't have a wholesale book burning...you simply pick
and choose which literature never makes it to market. Hmmmm
Internet age? Things stick around forever? Hah! At least in my lifetime
experience, there is so much chatter on the web, so much new out each day, that
yesterday's events are forgotten faster than ever before. You don't need to
'book burn' the net...just come up with something more interesting to attract
public attention and the "Short Attention Span Theater" has eliminated the need
for adding to global warming with wholesale incinerations. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1903 | Date: 2009-09-25 21:01 Photography by Mark:
[Callwood: ...]
In firefighting, you are trained in flashover situations. It is very common to
use old damaged library books in these situations. It is common for these books
to exercise spontanious combustion at 451 degrees farenheit. Even before Ray
Bradbury's masterpiece, it has been a common belief that book paper ignites and
burns at 451 degrees.
One of the reasons we had those Material Data Safety Sheets was to assist
firefighters in knowing the combustibility rating of items in the building. When
keeping an eye on the temperature around you inside a burning building it is
quite helpful to know how much atmospheric heat items in the room can take. I
assure you that each of the different types of paper we kept in stock had
different combustibility ratings.
Newsprint, I believe, is within your temperature range and a lot of old book
were printed on it. You can't beat the cost efficiency of newsprint on a web
press.
Flashover...caused by a heat index of 451 spontaneously igniting books? Uh hum.
Methinks you need to go back and review the 'flashover' portion of the
firefighting course. I believe that the correct term you want is
pyrolize, not 'flashover'.
Q: "At what temperature do books digitize?" Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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 ID: 297313 Posts: 3 | Date: 2009-09-26 05:29 As others have hinted, forget about storing books in your head - the thought
police are coming for us as well. |
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ID: 235463 Posts: 395 | Date: 2009-09-27 17:21 Callwood:
[Photography by Mark: ...]
Flashover...caused by a heat index of 451 spontaneously igniting books? Uh hum.
Methinks you need to go back and review the 'flashover' portion of the
firefighting course. I believe that the correct term you want is
pyrolize, not 'flashover'.
Q: "At what temperature do books digitize?"
I never said that books were used to aid or warn of flashover. I simply stated
that old damaged books were usually used in simulations. The biggest warning of
flashover is flames rolling across a ceiling. Yes, I know that flashover
temperatures vary with the contents of a room. It also varies by the amount of
clutter in a room. I was just stating what was taught to us in my FF-1 class. I
have had classes in MSDS. I do know and understand the use and information
involved with them. I also know that different papers burn at different
temperatures. What I failed to add to my previous statement is that in the
flashover simulator, It's kinda cool watching the items in the room react as the
temp rises.
I'm not trying to be smart or insulting. I'm speaking from the standpoint of my
training and experience. |
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1903 | Date: 2009-09-27 17:59 Jed Jones:
As others have hinted, forget about storing books in your head - the thought
police are coming for us as well.
No Joke! I believe that within our lifetime there will be micro computers that
one would inplant directly into one's brain. No desktop. No monitor. Information
will go directly to your visual cortex. Wireless will soon be everywhere on the
planet so your brain will always be connected to the internet.
At that point, you won't have to burn books...just burn the brain of anyone who
reads a censored book. Or arrest them. Marvelous thing GPS is, your exact
location will always be accessible.
Psst! Remember to close your eyes while showering, etc. Forget the Brain Cam on
and the world sees all! Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1903 | Date: 2009-09-27 18:31 Photography by Mark:
[Callwood: ...]
I never said that books were used to aid or warn of flashover. I simply stated
that old damaged books were usually used in simulations. The biggest warning of
flashover is flames rolling across a ceiling. Yes, I know that flashover
temperatures vary with the contents of a room. It also varies by the amount of
clutter in a room. I was just stating what was taught to us in my FF-1 class. I
have had classes in MSDS. I do know and understand the use and information
involved with them. I also know that different papers burn at different
temperatures. What I failed to add to my previous statement is that in the
flashover simulator, It's kinda cool watching the items in the room react as the
temp rises.
I'm not trying to be smart or insulting. I'm speaking from the standpoint of my
training and experience.
No prob!
Hey, I have never managed to burn down a print shop, much less check the
temperature of a burning building. Never burned a book either, come to think of
it. (Although I have read quite a few that would serve mankind better as
firewood.)
But I did melt a camera lens once while photographing a fire. And I have stayed
at a Holiday Inn Express... Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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ID: 235463 Posts: 395 | Date: 2009-09-27 21:13 The books that are donated to us are beyond readable. Usually missing half the
pages, scribbled in, torn up. The books, the old blankets, furniture, shelves,
magazines, everything in a room is affected by different temperatures. When the
room gets so hot that it's to the point where everything including the walls,
floor, and ceiling have reached ignition point, you have a flashover. If you
ever get the chance to go into a flashover simulator, do it. It's a trip. As for
your camera lens, I'm sorry to hear about it. I made the mistale of taking a
Minolta XG-M into the simulator once. I had to replace a pair of Dexter Firewall
gloves because thr room got so hot that the camera housing (no, I didn't use a
protective housing, camera was fully exposed) started melting and stuck to the
gloves. That mistake cost me a 45 dollar camera and 89 bucks for a new pair of
gloves. I feel your pain. |
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1903 | Date: 2009-09-28 01:19 Photo albums are books and often important eye-witness historical accounts. Book
burning means photograph burning! Eeeek! Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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ID: 235463 Posts: 395 | Date: 2009-10-17 19:13 Callwood:
Photo albums are books and often important eye-witness historical accounts. Book
burning means photograph burning! Eeeek!
Burning books means burning everything from historical facts to important
documents to scientific data. It would destroy all important information. Every
brick in every foundation of every free nation would be pulverized. Say goodbye
to democracy. |
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