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 ID: 194304 Posts: 143 | Date: 2009-10-12 17:01 Thanks Mystique, for leaving this one for me. 
America's lucky enough to have had Christopher go through all the voyage
distress that he did just to get gout & arthritis, later on, & have to suffer
humiliation to pay his last historical trip back home, just for the US to
eventually end up getting a Federal HOLIDAY. I understand he died heartbroken.
It's too bad that the Monarchy of Spain wasn't there to give him the support in
the end, as they did in the beginning. Irregardless of what Columbus did right
of wrong on the Island of (then) Hispanola--Now Dominican Republic, his bravery
& intelligence for predicting the eclipse on Jamaica, set the native tribes
people in fear of his power to be in touch with God, since they worshipped the
moon. Good timing, Chris', & what a way to keep trouble at bay, & regain food
rations, because of the notorious misdeeds of some of his crew members lewding &
raping the native women, causing the tribal members a prior block of food.
[This was just a simplified very condensed version of a post, leaving out (of
course) much historical figuring inbetween events. Not intended to offend any
nation or belief system.]
once upon a time.
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 ID: 255444 Posts: 842 | Date: 2009-10-12 17:06 Indeed, I raise my glass to our venerated neighbours to the south!
Happy Columbus Day! May you enjoy it with the ones you love.Why do we struggle to paddle upstream while the river is taking us where we need to go? |
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| Date: 2009-10-12 17:16 HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY... |
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 ID: 270426 Posts: 168 | Date: 2009-10-12 18:04 I will also say to all Americans HAPPY COLUMBS DAY. |
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 ID: 182744 Posts: 1903 | Date: 2009-10-13 08:09 Living in the only place in the United States of America that Columbus ever set
foot (Salt River, St. Croix, Virgin Islands) saying "Happy Columbus Day around
here is like cursing your mother.
Rape, murder, pillaging, burning, kidnapping, slavery, venereal disease,
deforestation and genocide are what we find in the original historic documents,
ship's logs and records that are archived here. Honoring him is like honoring
Jeffrey Dahmer for going to the moon. Well...3/4s of the way to the moon.
Columbus never made it to the Americas...neither North, South or Central
America. That was accomplished by Amerigo Vespucci i (Amerigo/America) which is
why the Americas is named for Vespucci , not Columbus. Columbus sailed into the
Caribbean and never went any further west. Hey...can you blame him? I do not
want to leave here either. 
How savvy was Columbus? He brought several dozen ships to invade St. Croix, went
up against Indians with canoes, and when the going got rough, abandoned his men
and retreated to Hispaniola (the island on which lie the Dominican Republic and
Haiti) which was large enough to hide on and build the first Catholic Cathedral
on this side of the world, while they regrouped. (I guess he needed to do
penance.)
When Columbus landed at Salt River, guns a blazing, my ancestors made a quick
meal of his landing party. What kind of Captain abandons his crew to be eaten
and never ever returns to check on them or at least recover their remains?
Since the Federal Government gives us the day off anyways, we find something
else to celebrate. Locally, it is not Columbus Day, it is Virgin Islands
- Puerto Rico Friendship Day.
So...Happy Friendship Day! Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should  |
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 ID: 266441 Posts: 45 | Date: 2009-10-15 08:54 NO MORE GENOCIDE! Abolish Columbus Day.To many Indians this is a national day of
mourning.His marauding band hunted Indians for sport and
profit-Beating,Raping,Torturing,Killing them and using the Indians bodys as food
for their dogs.Why Glorify,columbus he directed, Massacres killing Indians. He
returned from his first voyage with 10 live Indians he had Kidnapped.Not unlike
the conquistadors killing of indigenous peoples.The extermination of the
civilian population a practice yet to be abandoned.im proud My great great great
grandfather was an Indian.:Be Kinder than necessary because everyone is fighting some kind of battle. |
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ID: 194304 Posts: 143 | Date: 2009-10-13 19:52 Let there be peace on earth.
The ONE thing good of Columbus' dirty deeds dung dirt cheap, was that it gave
HISTORY a chance to mark a mental note of what to avoid & not to repeat, & allow
for the unification of people making something better for rememberance.
I'm not glorifying Christopher, just wanting people to join together to make
happiness out of what has been established, instead of dwelling on the
negative. 
once upon a time.
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ID: 182744 Posts: 1903 | Date: 2009-10-20 21:14 Dominic Ventura:
Let there be peace on earth.
The ONE thing good of Columbus' dirty deeds dung dirt cheap, was that it gave
HISTORY a chance to mark a mental note of what to avoid & not to repeat, & allow
for the unification of people making something better for rememberance.
I'm not glorifying Christopher, just wanting people to join together to make
happiness out of what has been established, instead of dwelling on the
negative.
What Columbus really did was discover a safe route across the Atlantic Ocean.
The Atlantic is the roughest and most dangerous ocean on the planet. The Vikings
made it to America a thousand years earlier by risking icy waters and precarious
ice bridges in the same area where the Titanic messed up. So, you can understand
why European colonization of the Americas was sporadic at best until Columbus'
voyage.
On the flip side, there is evidence of a flourishing trade between African
nations and the Incan, Mayans and Aztecs for thousands of years before Columbus.
The problem was that winds and tides from the African coast favored a sea voyage
to South America but not back.
Columbus stumbled into the Trade Winds which sweep up off the
coast of Africa up through Spain and cascade across the Atlantic straight into
the Caribbean. The discovery of the Caribbean meant a mid-way point where ships
could re-provision, make repairs, and rest before heading north west along the
safe, shallow Caribbean shelf and up the coast of the United States.
What is really remarkable about this whole thing is that the Trade Winds are
constant, year around. The only reason why Europeans...with the winds in
their favor...never stumbled across the Caribbean until then was
because they were afraid to sail either out of sight of land or beyond charted
waters.
The fact does remain that if Columbus had not been brave enough to venture into
the unknown, it may have been centuries more before anyone found the magic route
across the Atlantic. Have faith that the universe will unfold as it should |
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