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 ID: 185732 Posts: 109 | Date: 2007-04-13 05:42 I would like to hear each one opinion regarding this issue.
The bible says that we should forgive our enemies, and my question is who would
actually forgive a person who killed his/ her own brother/ mother/dad or sister? Love |
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 ID: 179376 Posts: 880 | Date: 2007-04-13 07:00 Yes,
Forgiveness is realistic...
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 ID: 169037 Posts: 63 | Date: 2007-04-13 07:30 Well, the mere fact that a person killed somebody is not enough, you have to
view the whole context of the murder.
IMHO, forgiveness is possible only if the person is truly penitent of the deed.
If the killer does not repent or realize the consequences of his/her actions,
and continues his/her former life without change, I would not forgive him/her.I knew for sure our chance was blown when rifles made us feel at home. |
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 ID: 189741 Posts: 214 | Date: 2007-04-13 09:05 It depends on the deed.. like a murderer can be a drunk driver and your family
being in the wrong place at the wrong time. they feel the guilt of it after they
know they were wrong.
But if it were done purposly.. say over drugs.. then id blame the drugs not the
people involved.
But if it were a serial killer i still wouldnt blame them, theres always a
reason behind it.
Yes there actions seem to be unforgivable.. but then on talking to them there
could be a reason behind it.
im not saying i support it.. and as iv never really been in those places then i
couldnt really say id be able to forgive them but id understand...
It can be the same as suicide.. they themselves would be the murderer.. would
you then forgive them?Live life to the max and never look back!
People are less likely to let their fears win,
When they can do what they want when they try. |
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| Date: 2007-04-13 09:12 Plainly and simply no way no how never.let them rot in jail for the rest of
their lives. |
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 ID: 183878 Posts: 1599 | Date: 2007-04-13 09:34 My belief system allows for both forgiveness and justice, as do most ethical
faiths.
On the other hand, one must understand the distinction between willful murder,
murder commited without forethought, unintentional or accidental manslaughter,
and predatory killings.
Each of those has varying degrees of responsibility and justice has suitable
responses to each.
In the last year or two, a predatory child molester, out on probation, captured
and raped a nine-year-old girl. He then buried her alive. She died by
suffocation, clutching a teddy bear, according to one report.
The killer was convicted of murder despite the defense's contention that he was
simple-minded. Hard to say what the truth is regarding his mental abilities,
because he certainly was clever in disposing of the girl and keeping it from the
police for a while.
I've been a soldier. I grew up on a farm and worked with my veterinarian
grandfather in his practice. I've killed many animals that had to be destroyed
or slaughtered for food and I've been prepared to kill humans, even to the point
of taking up the slack on a trigger, Fortunately, I never had to finish pulling
the trigger. Circumstance always intervened.
But I would have no qualms about putting to death a man like that child rapist.
To me, he is no different from a dog that goes on a killing rampage among sheep
or calves. Once a dog goes that far, the only option is death because the lust
for blood becomes too great.
And don't tell me that I'd have blood lust afterward. I've done all that when I
was younger and never liked it, but I did learn that some things have to be
killed to protect other life. It has to be done as an unpleasant job, a duty.
So put me down as a reactionary, or as unregenerate or uncivilized--whatever.
Things like that child killer need to be weeded out.If I haven't been there, I'm still planning on going!
If I haven't done it, I've still got time to try! |
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| Date: 2007-04-13 10:20 I'm of the same opinion as Charles here.
However I have to say, in my book a murderer is someone who kills intentionally,
so for example the case of a drunk driver doesn't count as murder to me. It was
an accident, period. A person who kills intentionally, barring perhaps soldiers
because after all it's a part of their job, is special in very strange ways. A
mother could plan to kill someone for molesting her child, and carry out the
plan. Would she be unjustified? I don't think so. Should she be punished? Tough
cookie here, but again I don't think so. Now this isn't manslaughter through
defence, this is certainly murder, so by the laws of most societies in the world
she would be severely punished - but why should she? She not only protected and
avenged her child, she removed a threat from society.
 I can't
say if I would forgive a murderer... sometimes I just wouldn't even blame the
person. Now a rapist on the other hand... hand me a knife, let me dispose of him
systematically  . |
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ID: 183878 Posts: 1599 | Date: 2007-04-13 15:06 Marie,
You got me, babe. I'll show you how to start the death of a thousand cuts.
Unless, of course, you already know all the moves. If I haven't been there, I'm still planning on going!
If I haven't done it, I've still got time to try! |
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| Date: 2007-04-13 15:40 Well Charles, where knowledge fails, imagination steps in  |
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| Date: 2007-04-13 17:17 my religion teacher's sister in law was killed by her bf-
as tough as it was, the family forgave him. theres still anger, hurt ,betrayel,
etc....but forgivness...key
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ID: 185732 Posts: 109 | Date: 2007-04-13 18:07 If they had killed one of you family members would you forgive and forget and
become close friends again?..I know this is a hard question for everyone. Love |
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| Date: 2007-04-13 21:59 u shud still 4giv them tho, usually they hav a good reason, u just hav to ask
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 ID: 188071 Posts: 591 | Date: 2007-04-13 22:06 Edvardas M.:
Well, the mere fact that a person killed somebody is not enough, you have to
view the whole context of the murder.
IMHO, forgiveness is possible only if the person is truly penitent of the deed.
If the killer does not repent or realize the consequences of his/her actions,
and continues his/her former life without change, I would not forgive
him/her.
That is my belief, also:>
RIGHT ON*****Edvardas!
Otherwise, Satan would've been forgiven & hell wouldn't be in opposition! 'Hair' TODAY, (Cy)  .:. NET=---> Tomorrow! |
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| Date: 2007-04-14 01:39 Simon's Photography:
Plainly and simply no way no how never.let them rot in jail for the rest of
their lives.
I agree with Simon. Regardless of the situation i would not be able to forgive
them. |
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 ID: 127530 Posts: 2 | Date: 2007-04-14 03:57 If the perp killed them in self defense, that is cool, as it saves tax $ having
to keep people in prison. If thr perp did it for sport, or out of hatred, then
it is probably considered murder, and I do not know in all cases what justifies
murder; I guess that is unknowable, unless you can read someones mind.
I imagine it is ok to murder someone if they are traitors, or part of a tyranny
or heresy, that is trying to destroy the Constitution, but that would mean blood
would run like rivers, and I doubt that one man could do it all himself. But he
would be a prophet for others to follow.
A woman murdered a pervert who raped her daughter, and I bless her . So I guess
some one ought to murder the prosecutors for bad judgement, so other
prosecutors(persecutors) will think twice before charging someone with a crime
of logic.
Pauli  |
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 ID: 160909 Posts: 584 | Date: 2007-04-14 04:13 Me, perhaps, no. Even if it was not intentionally. Why? Just because I am living
by rules not to hurt other people. Drunk driver let's say. If I were drunk I
wouldn't sit in the car with thought "Maybe, I'll reach home safely and police
will not stop me, so I better be hurry" because even if I kill a dog by knocked
him down, it will be awful for me. Just because I couldn't take taxi or stop
myself before drinking.
Sorry, this is not my case, I feel myself very responsible for others' people
lifes. I don't have right to take someone's life.I am still here |
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 ID: 185837 Posts: 336 | Date: 2007-04-14 04:28 I imagine it would help you move on if you could forgive 
I'd also imagine it would be *really* hard to do!***** Spring approaches and soon the fairies will awaken ***** |
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ID: 160909 Posts: 584 | Date: 2007-04-14 04:31 Perhaps...I am still here |
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| Date: 2007-04-15 18:14 SassY V.:
[Pasquale Gelardi: ...]
There's TRUE JUSTICE!!!=---> Self Defense 2nd hand. . .Sorry  & that it
happened to her daughter!
THANXoXoX. Pauli 
Sorry, I would never "bless" someone that murdered someone else, for whatever
reason. I could see if she was trying to protect her daughter or herself, that
would be different, but it's still not something to "bless." I don't believe
that "an eye for an eye" justice makes our society any better.
As far as forgiveness, I'm an atheist, which doesn't leave me devoid of morals
but also doesn't compel me to forgive anyone for a higher power or because it is
"holy". I think that it's unhealthy to stew in emotions and hold a grudge, and
that forgiveness is probably somewhere in the process of moving on after a
death. |
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